Think Different Theory

Holistic Heath, Vaccines, and the Modern Medicine Problem


In this episode, I welcome Aimee Tariq, wife of Immy Tariq, and leading expert on health optimization. Aimee became a #1 Best Selling Author at the age of 23 and has been interviewed in many publications such as USA Today, Huffington Post, Forbes, INC etc.


She is super passionate about empowering professionals to live their best lives by removing toxic triggers and maximizing energy, focus, and productivity. Listen in as we go into her crazy backstory with her health issues, dive into holistic medicine, discuss the issues with modern medicine, how to start properly taking care of your body, and so much more health and wellness stuff.

Here are the key topics discussed in this episode:

  • Aimee’s background and how she got into holistic medicine (03:40)
  • The conundrum of either dying or being sick for 50 years (08:01)
  • Traditional doctors versus holistic doctors (doctors who heal) (17:15)
  • Depression and burnout among doctors and physicians (24:19)
  • The healing power of garlic and the impact of clean water (39:00)
  • Medicine and exercise can’t fix a bad diet (42:59)
  • Are vaccines really necessary for newborn babies and the rest of us? (51:24)
  • They’re trying to take away homeschooling (01:00:53)
  • Where to learn about alternatives to traditional medicine (01:03:41)


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September 27, 2019


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Aimee: 00:00:00 So now I think that it’s now moving more towards functional medicine rather than holistic because holistic now has… yeah. So, it’s moving more towards functional. So functional is basically what holistic used to be. And, what that is, it means whenever a doctor who heals is with you, and going through your health journey, they look at any aspect that you can heal from. So if that means prescribing you a medication that’ll actually help you and heal you, they will prescribe that medication.

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Josh: 00:01:16 What’s up guys welcome back to another episode of Think Different Theory. My name is Josh Forti. And, we have a very exciting guest on for you here today, because, as you guys may know, maybe… maybe some of you don’t. I’ve had an interesting experience in my life when it comes to doctors, and health, and wellness, and medical things. I’ve had a lot of friends that are doctors in the traditional doctor and medicine field. And, I have a lot of respect for what doctors do, and have done. However, I think my experience personally with doctors has been that doctors oftentimes don’t know what they’re talking about. And, most of the big issues in my life have come through a… or big health issues have been healed, or been fixed through non-traditional practices of medicine, and non maybe mainstream with that. I had a sister of mine who had epilepsy at one point in her life. She was having seizures every eight minutes. The number one doctor in the world for child epilepsy told my parents like, “Hey, I don’t know what’s wrong with her. You know, don’t know what’s wrong with her, i can’t help her.” Anytime I was sick, or you know, had any issues, like my mom was a big, big health freak. So, she healed us a lot with holistic style of, you know, medicines, or holistic style of healing just with the food we ate, or the exercises that we did, or the essential oils, and things that we did. And so, my next guest in the interview here, is someone who is friends with Dr. Gladys. Right?

Aimee: 00:02:47 Yeah.

Josh: 00:02:47 Yeah. Friends with Dr. Gladys who is one of the founders of holistic medicine. She is just someone who is very, very smart, very, very amazing when it comes to holistic things. She’s very passionate about this, she’s an Amazon bestseller. So, very, very passionate and smart about these things. And, I want to bring on Aimee Tariq. Right? Aimee Tariq. Aimee, welcome to The Think Different Theory. Thank you so much, for coming on here. I’m excited for this.

Aimee: 00:03:12 Oh, I’m so excited to be here as well.

Josh: 00:03:15 So, give us a little bit of your background. And for context, you are married to Immy, who we’ve had on the program before. That’s kind of the connection here, but give us a little bit of your background, because I know you come from a small town area. Right? And… and have an interesting story to how you got to where you’re at. So, give us a little bit about your background, and how you got into this whole holistic medicine healing type thing.

Aimee: 00:03:40 Absolutely. So I come, I’m gonna introduce myself real quick. We come from a very small town in Indiana, um, similar to you. And I went to a very small school and I was very athletic. I was a cheerleader. I did dance, I did all the sports, and one night I came home and my heart rate was over 200 beats per minute and I was going to go to bed that night. Yes. And it was so fast. It’s so hard. And I knew something wasn’t right. So I called an ambulance and unfortunately, it wasn’t my last time calling the ambulance. So, this occurred three years, so for years, my heart rate would be 200 beats per minute. Of course I had to quit all of my athletic activities. Um, I was, you know, one of the best in the class. I’d still received over $1 million in scholarships for college, um, and a whole bunch of awards and stuff like that. So it didn’t affect my academics fortunately. But, um, physically I was basically bedridden. I couldn’t do anything. Um, I was so sick. I had trouble even having a conversation. I had trouble brushing my teeth.

Josh: 00:05:03 How old were you at this time?

Aimee: 00:05:05 I was…

Josh: 00:05:05 when it first happened.

Aimee: 00:05:06 18.

Josh: 00:05:07 18? Okay. So you were like a senior in high school though.

Aimee: 00:05:09 You’re in high school. Absolutely.

Josh: 00:05:11 How, how much does that change your life when you, I mean, like I’m, I have a girlfriend, right. And she was incredibly, incredibly active in sports in high school as well. Right. Like in everything, small town. I mean, not from Indiana, but from Nebraska. And like, I mean that a lot, hugely defined, a lot of what she did to take that away, I feel like has gotta be a huge shift.

Aimee: 00:05:35 It was, um, to give some perspective, an award on an essay that described how awful like before any of this had happened, I wrote an essay about how the worst conceivable thing for me that I could conceive to happen would be for this, for me to lose my ability to do all of this and.

Josh: 00:05:57 You wrote an essay before you did it, before this all happened. Oh my God.!

Aimee: 00:06:02 So, um, for me it was literally the worst thing that could ever happen because I’m such a physical person. Um, it was just like, I, I just can’t describe it. Like it was, it sucked. Yeah.

Josh: 00:06:15 So like, so you were living there. Were you living with parents at this point? Like in high school.

Aimee: 00:06:23 I was living with parents and um, yes. So I was a senior in high school. I was living with my mom and dad and, um, really nobody understood why this was happening. I had some people, I’m like, my principal at the school told me despite being contacted by health lawyers and um, and my doctors themselves and all of that. Um, and despite see me wearing heart monitors, like I was not, well obviously, um, she said that the reason why I was doing this was because I was overwhelmed and school was too hard and I’m at the top of the class. So school was too hard and that, and by senior year I had actually completed all of my credits beforehand. So for a senior year I like I was doing independent studies. That means taking on my own by myself. So I had no reason to be in school by senior year. So obviously school wasn’t too hard. I, I already completed it. And so, um, so she was saying that literally the only reason why I stayed in school actually was for cheerleading and ass, um, that I was making my heart rate go 200 beats per minute. And I was like,

Josh: 00:07:41 because that’s a thing.

Aimee: 00:07:43 And I was like, well that’s really it. Interesting. Cause the only one on recorded history who’s ever done that was I’m gone be. And so I must be pretty cool. [inaudible]

Josh: 00:07:55 that’s awesome.

Aimee: 00:08:01 But yeah, it really did change my life. It was very disheartening. And for a long time like I was okay, I was always okay with that. And I was like, well, if I’m into to diamond stylus, fine. I did a lot of cool things. I’d already traveled the world by then. I’d already been all over Europe and everywhere I wanted to go. So I was like, whatever, it’s fine. Um, and so I was okay with that, but then I realized that that wasn’t coming. It wasn’t happening. Possibility of me being sick for 50 years became, began to like creep into my mind. And I was like, well, I’m okay with dying, but I’m not okay with being sick like this for years. And you know, the doctors I would go to, they’d be like, oh well you’re going to be on my medications. You know, you’re going to be sick your whole life. And I was like, well, you know, I can’t even like have a life. I can’t do anything that I was, you know, setting to do, um, like I can’t, like this isn’t a life, like I can’t live like this another way. And they’re like, no, this just happens to some people. And I’m like,

Josh: 00:09:06 it’s crazy to me that that’s a thing though, right? Like some people just accept that. And like I, because of my, your background and experience with doctors pretty much never believe anything the doctor says if it doesn’t work, if the doctor is like, ah, it’s not going to work or we have no solution for it, I’m like, okay, you’re just dumb and we’re going to go find the solution. Right? Like if they have a solution, great. But, and, and, and by the way, I want to preface this by saying I’m not trying to disrespect doctors here, right? Like I understand that they go through and they do do a lot of research and they do do a lot of study. Like, I understand that, I’m not saying that they have an easy job, especially in today’s world, but to blindly accept the fact that a doctor somehow knows it all after four or eight years of studying is maybe a little bit, um, I dunno, it just seems kind of foolish but that’s in my opinion on it. Um, I do want to go, I’ll go ahead, go

Aimee: 00:09:57 the best doctors, the ones who he’ll know that they don’t know everything and that’s what makes them so great.

Josh: 00:10:03 And I like that a lot and we’re going to get to that because I really want to touch on that point talking about the doctors who heal. Before I do that, I have two things that I want to touch on. I kind of want to back up first. Okay. From a parent perspective and from an 18-year-old perspective, cause there are some, there are quite a few parents that still listen to the podcast here that have some young kids. Um, and while that’s not maybe the entire, you know, demo of this, there are, you know, quite a few people on here. We know our demo pretty well. What, look, were you bullied? How did your social life change and what would you tell a parent of someone that is going through, you know, maybe they have a child that you know is going through a lot of sickness or is going through things that are not a normal kids, what no normal kid would go through in high school and maybe that Kid’s 12, maybe that kid 16, maybe they’re 18, but like what advice would you have both to the parent and to the child, um, to get through this and how were you able to get through this? W where’s their support? Was there not support? Were you bullied? Like, what was that like?

Aimee: 00:11:06 I was absolutely bullied by family, by friends, by, um, teachers, by, um, adults who should know better by, you know, students who’ve always been jealous of my success and, you know, saw this moment of weakness and said, let’s get her now, um, by their parents who didn’t like that I was successful. Um, so yeah, I was bullied by a lot of people. Um,

Josh: 00:11:32 bullied. How so?

Aimee: 00:11:34 Like, you know, whenever I was in a wheelchair, you know, I was, they would try to push me over or you know, try to take my software, push me over, cause I’m also very small. So stuff like that. Um, but you know, whenever you’re sick you see the worst of humanity cause you know, people who disabled, um, they see the worst people treat disabled people very poorly. But you also get to see the best. You get to see the saints of the communities. And so you get to see the people who advocate for people with disabilities, that people who stand up for these things, that people who help and don’t expect anything in return. So I focused on the angels.

Josh: 00:12:18 For a parent going through something like this, what would your advice be to them? How can they best support their child?

Aimee: 00:12:24 Well, I think it’s important to be their advocate because unfortunately, we live in an aging society as you probably experienced. So people who are younger than 25 are seen as not able to do, have thoughts, opinions, or any sort of brain function. Um, and so really being an advocate for your child is the most important thing because unfortunately, um, while you’re in the United States, um, 18 isn’t actually seen as adults. Um, your nobody, nobody’s going to believe an 18-year-old when they say, you know, I’m really sick. And even, even though I had all of the doctors, I had a health advocate, I had everything, counselors, everything saying this person is really sick. And on top of that I’m a female and it’s been shown that, you know, females aren’t believed. Um, so with all of that and against me, like it would have been really great to have had parents advocating because that makes all the difference.

Josh: 00:13:34 And did you have that or no,

Aimee: 00:13:36 no, I did it.

Josh: 00:13:38 So, and if this is too personal, I understand, um, where are your parents not like, like just disconnected or not supportive or what, what was going on in that during that time of everything with them?

Aimee: 00:13:50 Um, I think it was a bit of both. I think that they were disconnected and I think that they, um, they just, they didn’t want to deal with it simple. Like they didn’t want to deal with it. It wasn’t really their problem. They thought

Josh: 00:14:03 interesting. And a parents, if you’re out there, like I will say one of the greatest, if not the single greatest contributor to where I’m at today. And I know I get asked that a lot by a lot of people was the parenting that I grew up with. So, I mean, if you want to have your kids have success, I think just showing up and being proactive in their life goes a tremendously long way. But that’s maybe a conversation for another time. Um, you mentioned about death, like, hey, you’re 18, 19 years old here. You’re like, all right, cool. Like I’m good with death, I’ve accepted that. Uh, then this starts to creep in that holy crap. Like maybe I’m going to have to deal with this for 50 years. Um, what made you okay with death and are you religious at all?

Aimee: 00:14:45 Um, I was very catholic growing up, like extremely Catholic and so, but I, I’m not sure if that’s really what did it. I think the main thing was I had experienced a lot of death in my life, um, beforehand and even, yeah, I just, I’ve experienced a lot of deaths in my life, so, um, a lot of family members had died. Um, my cousin died when she was 15. Um, I’ve had after I was sick and actually once I started getting, well my, one of my best friends from childhood died when he was just, um, so.

Josh: 00:15:20 I’m sorry, how old was he?

Aimee: 00:15:22 He was 20. And so, um, and so yeah, I had, um, a lot of experiences with death and death around me and, um, I’ve just come to look at it as a beautiful thing, especially with, you know, I, I could talk more into detail with those experiences because, um, they’re really, really interesting. But I don’t know how much time we have, but yes.

Josh: 00:15:46 Interesting. And, um, if man death will teach you, especially the death of a close family member or friend will teach you things that are not, like, you just can’t be taught, right? Like they’re, they’re not without experiencing it yourself. I think it just brings perspective. I mean, I know when I lost my brother like, man, like, you know what I mean? Like you just learn things that you would never learn elsewhere. And so to experience that multiple times, I could see why you were at that point. Um, I do want to move on though to the holistic side of things and talking specifically about the doctors that heal and um, because I know that, excuse me, that you’re a lot about that and I really like what our last conversation that you and I had about that. Um, I was very fascinated with the, the way that you talked about doctors and, and how you did that. But before we dive into maybe the specifics of that, maybe bring some context around the different types of doctors slash medical practices out there. Like, how are [inaudible] is what you do or are interested in. Cause you’re not, you’re not a doctor, right? You’re not a holistic doctor, but you’re very into holistic medicine and holistic healings. Correct. So explain the difference between traditional doctors and maybe doctors that heal or hurt holistic doctors and how they view things differently. And then we’re going to dive into further on why you believe that and whatnot. But simply from a factual standpoint, what are the differences?

Aimee: 00:17:15 So, um, I was going to go into a premed and then, um, decided not to do that anymore, not to be a doctor anymore.

Josh: 00:17:25 And this is in college?

Aimee: 00:17:26 Right. And so, um, so the difference between doctors who heal and other doctors is that doctors who heal, they, um, they’re able to really look into a person and see that there are more than just the physical body. So there’s also an emotional element. There’s a mental element, there’s a spiritual element. And then yes, there’s a physical element. But the physical element is also very complicated. So for example, a typical doctor will think, oh, you know, what’s going on in your mouth? Like a cavity has nothing to do with the rest of your body. That’s crazy. A cavity can produce inflammation throughout your whole body, which can, you know, put you into chronic illness or even a root canal that’s not done well. there’s so many things and whenever your oral microbiome is disrupted, there’s so many things that can completely affect your body. There’s actually a bacteria in your mouth that has been linked to obesity and diabetes. Yeah. So if it’s not imbalance, um, you can get obesity, diabetes, cancer, miscarriages, um, pregnancy complications, so many issues. So the body is not just the body, it is the oral microbiome. It is, um, all of the germs that we can’t see that encompass our entire body all around us. It’s so much more than just what a typical doctor, unfortunately, might look at. And now some holistic doctors aren’t, um, aren’t good either. Just like some functional doctors aren’t good and some, um, allopathic doctors aren’t good. And so it’s, it’s kind of tricky to find one that really, um, knows how the whole body comes together. And, um, and not all holistic doctors can do this. Not all allopathic doctors can do this and not all functional doctors can do this and just not all doctors can do this. Cause it’s, it takes a lot of, um, it takes a lot of, besides thinking you have to do things from a different way. For example, to do this kind of, um, long healing, you can’t necessarily work with insurance companies. You can’t necessarily, um, work with a medical establishment. So you have to have enough money to be an independent, um, medical place. Right. Which many doctors don’t have the money for, especially with, um, their college, um, that so high. And besides that, you have to be able to not except insurance, which, you know, um, good doctors. You know, it’s scary for them to see that because then it means not helping as many people. But at the same time, the reason why a lot of these doctors don’t accept insurance is because the insurance companies try to force the doctors and pressured the doctors to push out medications that, you know, people don’t need. Hello. Oid Crisis in America. Yes. And so insurance companies really do that. They push doctors to push these medications on people that maybe these people don’t need. Um, push them to push treatments, people that maybe people don’t need and a whole bunch of other things. And they threaten and bully doctors whenever they don’t see a ridiculous amount of patients in a day. Whereas doctors who don’t accept insurance, they can take three hours talking to you if that’s what you need.

Josh: 00:21:04 Right. Well, and I want to, I want to touch on that a little bit more because I, so anytime that there is an accusation in, in any area of life of like, Oh, this group of people is doing x or you know, is being bullied by x, there’s obviously people out there that are like, oh, that’s not happening. Right. So I do want to kind of normalize and, and maybe talk about that.

Aimee: 00:21:27 What happened as long as you do exactly what they say when they say it.

Josh: 00:21:30 Right? So it’s like, you know, with doctors guys, like yes, there are exceptions to the rules. Like, yes. You know, I grew up, thankfully my, my mom, especially my mom and my dad worked a whole lot to get, you know, to pay the bills and he was awesome. But like when it came to health, my mom was very proactive about not only the food that we put in our bodies and we ate organic. And I mean like we went out of our way to, you know, get grass-fed beef and all that stuff. But when we did go to the doctor, which was not often, my mom did it extensive research and we would like literally switched doctors, um, multiple times until we found one that really went through and did actually for us, like the doctor that we found actually have the same religious beliefs. Um, and you know, you’re talking about, and I’m not saying you have to be that extreme necessarily, but when you talk about like, Hey, it’s more than just the physical aspect of things. Like we found a doctor that even though he was in the traditional medicine world did understand that a whole lot more and was very open to a lot of the more holistic style of healings. And even he said that the reason, cause he used to be an independent practice and then Obamacare came in, right? He then became part of the, his practice with that, I don’t know, it was like four other doctors there. They became part of the hospital because they literally couldn’t afford the fees and the penalties and stuff that Obamacare and the bit the big companies are placing on them. So from a financial standpoint, they had to become part of the hospital and now they couldn’t prescribe. Like I had really, really bad allergies when I was little. So some eye drops that were like $100 a bottle. Right. And some clarity and some heavy d duty declared. And that was prescription done. Like he could just, you used to be able to just [inaudible] write me a write up as a prescription over the counter and now he couldn’t, like I had to actually go in and have an appointment and he’s like, I have to give you x number of options and tell you that you should have x number thing. So like even him, even someone that like didn’t even want to do it, but tell me, it was like, hey, like we’re being this pressured. And so when you say that, I think a lot of listeners, especially in the entrepreneurial world, they’re like, ah, yeah, just we’ll just screw the government. You can’t in this case, right? Like it’s a real thing. Like the companies are dead, right? It really is. Which makes it incredibly difficult to be a doctor right now, which is why I say like, I do have a lot of respect for doctors. I think that they’re wrong a lot of the times, but I think maybe a lot, maybe not a lot of it, but there is definitely an element of that to say maybe they think they know better than what they’re actually telling you to do, but simply because when’s the last time you spent three hours at the doctor in front of the doctor, right? Like it’s like 10 minutes in and out. Like they, they only have that much, a lot of time, um, due to insurance companies. And that is very, very frustrating. And you know, talking about the opioid crisis, like it leads to things like that, you know what I mean?

Aimee: 00:24:19 Absolutely. Yeah. And there are so many doctors who are just absolutely heartbroken over the system and burnt out and just so tired because you’re talking about good people with big hearts who went into, they’re expecting, you know, to actually help people, the system, not allowing them to help people. It’s depression is now rampant among doctors and physicians. It’s very, very sad,

Josh: 00:24:40 which is just crazy. Right? Because I, which, and once again, what are your thoughts on this? Cause like I kind of grew up and I’ve kind of maybe made accepted some of my own ideology. I’m not saying that I got this from parents or whatever, but like I kind of look at things and go, if the person that I’m listening from or learning from does not have the result that I want, I’m not going to listen to them. Right. So like if I go to a doctor and they’re super struggling with depression, I’m probably not going to take advice on them on how to overcome depression. But at the same time they’re a doctor. So like if a doctor is struggling from depression or like things like that, like should they be practicing? Like how do you, how do you balance that?

Aimee: 00:25:18 Oh, that is such a tricky subject. I think that as long as they are making sound decisions and helping people, that they should be practicing. But hopefully they have enough self-awareness to know, you know, with helping people and when they’re not.

Josh: 00:25:32 Yeah. Okay. Really quickly, I do want to move on to the holistic side of things because that’s what excites me most. I know that you’re big on that, but you mentioned the opioid crisis. Um, I’m pretty familiar with everything that’s going on. Maybe not everything that’s going on there, but the, the lawsuits that are going on right now, uh, the family that are in a company that has now filed for bankruptcy I think is what a $14 billion or a $12 billion suit basically that they’re having to pay. Um, what are your thoughts on the opioid crisis? Just in general? Briefly,

Aimee: 00:26:03 we’ve seen like ever since I was a little girl, I saw people just taking Tylenol like they were candy and aspirin. Like they are like they’re candy and those are on opioids, but they are pain killers. And so it’s not really much of a shocker that, you know, those don’t affect people anymore. I don’t take any pain medications. And everybody in America is like, you don’t take pain medications. How do you survive? It’s like the way we have for millennials, pain medications haven’t been around that long. And, um, and whenever you start looking into all of the side effects, especially on women, pain medications on women have more side effects than they do for men. And whenever you look at those side effects, you’re like, a lot of people are like, oh, those are rare. Those don’t really happen. They’re not that rare. And they are happening because we see such a huge arise and people with chronic illness that she used rise and people who are sick and struggling and you know, everybody’s been giving their kids Tylenol since they were two years old. So we got, we’ll get into that. I [inaudible]

Josh: 00:27:11 wait, you said there like people think that it’s rare, but it’s really not that rare. Yeah, it’s, it’s really rare if you take Tylenol one time for you to get a disease, right. You know what I mean? Or twice, but like, you know, when you’re taking Ibuprofen and Advil and Tylenol or whatever on a,

Aimee: 00:27:25 Oh, some people take them every day.

Josh: 00:27:29 Right? It’s like what? And it’s one of those things where you look at it and you’re like, just, I am really big on objective thinking. Right? Like really big and taking a step back and have this third party view and being like, Huh, okay, we were clearly created one way.

Aimee: 00:27:43 Right?

Josh: 00:27:44 W why would you put something into your body constantly every single day and expect there not to be a side effect to it because it’s not natural and it is as much as I wish this wasn’t the case because believe me there is absolutely no one that I’ve ever met that loves McDonald’s and you know Dr. Pepper and you know, absolute terrible junk food for you as much as I do. Like I love those things and I wish that they were healthy for you and I wish that, you know, like you can eat them without side effects but like it isn’t natural, right? Like, and when you’re putting something that is literally not natural into your body, that is that process. Like, and I’m not saying that I’m perfect at this, like I still eat them at times. Right? But like what I’m saying is like you can’t expect there to be normal things that go down and then they go to the doctor and it’s like, why am I sick? And the doctor was like, well, here’s another non-natural thing to put into your body. So you go from non-natural to even more non-natural and then that has side effects and it’s not, and it’s just a spiral out of control mess. So with that all being said, let’s move. And that means that.

Aimee: 00:28:51 I don’t take pain medications, but it doesn’t mean I’m against it. I just, I, if I was in severe pain, like I broke my leg, I would, I’d prefer ugly. I’d take an injectable pain medication cause those work better. Um, you know, making you not feel pain. So I would definitely go to the hospital and take that pain medication because it’s not nice, but I don’t, I don’t like why would I take it just because my muscles are sore after workout, like know.

Josh: 00:29:19 Right, right. And I think there are different levels of pain and different types. I mean like a broken bone is significantly different than, you know, gut problem or, you know, muscle problems or things like that. Like, yeah, if you’ve got a broken bone, like get numbed up, right. I’m going, I have a dentist appointment today and I’m probably going to have to, you know, be all [inaudible] right here. You know what I mean? Like Meg it away or I get that. But,

Aimee: 00:29:47 well, interesting enough, my dentist actually, um, whenever I went, they didn’t numb me up because he’s, he’s a magnificent dentist and I felt no pain whatsoever. Um, I think he felt two cavities. I wasn’t numbed up at all. I was terrified. No nothing, no pain. I did bite him though.

Josh: 00:30:09 Wow. That’s funny. Well, I’m going to have to tell my doctor or my dentist to bev it up. That’s funny. That’s funny. Okay, so holistic medicine. Um, well, okay, so there’s holistic medicine, traditional medicine, and there was another medicine that medical practice that you mentioned. It starts with an a, what was it? Okay. What’s, what’s the difference between that and holistic medicine?

Aimee: 00:30:31 Um, that’s basically like your traditional medicine. So Dr Gladys has both, um, is both allopathic and holistic cause she was the one who invented holistic medicine. So of course before holistic, there was only one which was allopathic. So the mainstream,

Josh: 00:30:49 so mainstream like Dr Medicine.?

Aimee: 00:30:53 Um, yeah, like both holistic, holistic doctors are still doctors.

Josh: 00:30:58 Do you have to, do you have to get like a degree to be a holistic doctor?

Aimee: 00:31:01 Yes.

Josh: 00:31:02 So you do. Okay. So the, you are not an, I think this actually is a really important point to clarify. So I’m glad we’re here. You’re not just performing medical procedures or diagnosis is on people without some form of degree or something that says, Hey, I actually do know what I’m talking about. Correct.

Aimee: 00:31:22 Yes. Holistic doctors are doctors. They are trained medically.

Josh: 00:31:27 Let’s, let’s talk about doctors that heal versus doctors that don’t heal. Or doctor, I forget exactly how you put it, the last conversation that we have, and the differences between the two of those because like I was like, wow, that makes so much sense. And our last conversation. And for those that are wondering, you talked about this last conversation, we actually did an interview for the podcast and then the file got corrupted. So we’re redoing this interview. Um, but one of the big takeaways that I had from there was from you was there are doctors that prescribe and there are doctors that heal, right? So there are doctors that go in and say, you have x problem right here. I do not look at the context of everything as a whole. I simply go, I read the manual or I know from past experience of like, Oh, you’ve got this, this says it’s going to be the cure for it. I’m going to prescribe you it. And I’m overgeneralizing here. People like, you know, but for the most part, it’s doctors that prescribed versus doctors that heal what makes holistic medicine so attractive or working and like why do people have some success there versus just doctors that prescribed.

Aimee: 00:32:43 So now I think that, um, it’s now moving more towards functional medicine rather than holistic because holistic now has, um, yeah, so it’s moving more towards functional. So functional is basically what Ellis stick used to be. And um, what that is, is that it means whenever a doctor who heals is with you and going through your health journey, um, they look at any aspect that you can heal from. So if that means prescribing you a medication that’ll actually help you and heal you, they will prescribe that medication. Um, but if that means, hey, you have, you know, a cold, why don’t you just take these remedies and it’ll help you get over it and prevent another cold from happening? Or let’s say for me personally. So, um, no doctor told me to do this. This, there’s just something I do on my own. I, um, I’ve been getting strep throat, um, for like two times a year for a very long time. I had my tonsils removed when I was five, which, you know, I don’t really recommend anybody doing. Now there’s like, um, a lot of research about how, you know, you should probably keep your tonsils if you really, really can. You should really hold on to them. Um, but anyways, I don’t recommend it, but it happened and I’ve been getting strep throat about two times a year, ever since my whole life. And so obviously I can’t be on antibiotics that much. And you know, being on antibiotics that much, he will, um, began to get a, um, um, antibiotic resistance, which will, you know, make you die next time you need antibiotics and they don’t work. So, um, which you know, is something that a lot of medic medicine, the whole medicine field is worried about because, you know, now there’s antibiotics in our chicken and in our meat. So it’s developing anti, um, antibiotic resistance and people just because they’re not eating, they’re eating antibiotics through their meats and through their products anyway. So whenever I get strep throat, I don’t get antibiotics. And I’m not telling people, hey, you should do this because if you don’t do it right, you will die. So don’t, don’t do this, but I have to do for me. So if a normal person has strep throat, just get your antibiotics. But for me, I get it so often this way. But, um, so whenever I get strep throat, you know, I get tested, I get the swab, it says, yes, you’re positive for Stra. I, um, take menuca honey, I take ginger, I take a whole bunch of other things. And then most importantly, I go right back in and I get it swabs and it’s like, oh, you don’t have strep anymore. And so, um, there are so many ways they heal infections. And what’s interesting is that we have a whole population of people who truly believe humans would die without any antibiotics. Like all of humanity. It’s like we have evolved and survived for millenniums without antibiotics. Like we are okay, there are so many options.

Josh: 00:35:47 So I want to, I want to counter that even though I agree with you. Let me play that out.

Aimee: 00:35:53 I think, I think there are cases where you need antibiotics. That’s what I’m saying. For a normal person, if you have strep throat, take antibiotics.

Josh: 00:35:59 And I agree with you, but I, I wanna, I wanna counter play the devil’s advocate here on the, hey, we’ve survived for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, right? So like, um, we pretty much, I think everyone would agree that we are the most populated we ever have been on the earth. Right? I mean where we’re at is what, seven over 7 billion people, right? We do not have widespread plagued diseases that are wiping out mass, millions of people like we did in the past. Right now we have chronic illnesses, but now we have chronic illness. And I, and I agree with you that 100% like we have something that may be, I don’t want to say worse because I’m not saying that you know, people living versus people dying is worse. But could one argue, and I want to be clear, like I’m on the side to say we don’t need a lot of antibiotics. Not that they’re terribly bad, but could one argue to say antibiotics wild, they have jack people up, at least they’ve kept people alive or do you believe that there was remedies with

Aimee: 00:37:01 it definitely has saved lives. Yes. But there are so many remedies that you know, we can get that are often cheaper.

Josh: 00:37:09 So, for example, and I’m going to use the example of the black plague and if you have a better example of this, like you know, some other big case of, of sickness that has gone through that you can [inaudible].

Aimee: 00:37:20 viral, then it wouldn’t have been, antibiotics wouldn’t have worked on it regardless because you’re bacterial. So I don’t know much about the black like I’m going to do real quick. If it’s viral, then it would’ve worked anyways.

Josh: 00:37:33 Well because, so one of the things, and my mom’s a big, big health nerd, right? Like health geek and PR, one of the smartest when it comes to that. She’s basically dedicated her whole life to that. Because of my sister, you know, her big thing was, hey, if the black bite happened today, which we don’t expect it to, but hypothetically, she’s like, the number one thing that I would tell you to do is she’s like, you go to the store and you get as much garlic as you possibly could and you cover it, you eat it, you ingest it, you put it all over yourself, you put it up your nose like you any and everywhere you consume, like just cloves of garlic. And to this day, whenever I’m sick and you know people that are close to my sister, my girlfriend absolutely hates it because like whenever you eat garlic, it like comes out your pores and you smell like in is awful. Right? But it heals you, right? It really does. And it kills so many things. So my big thing when it comes to, and the argument, and once again I’m playing the devil’s advocate on this, even though I agree with you, people have come to me and been like, well Josh, if we would have had antibiotics or we would’ve had modern day medicine, you know, the black plague or some of these huge things like, yeah, um, we could have saved a lot of people. And my argument back is to say, well, we don’t know that. Right. Well, I don’t know that. Right. You don’t know that maybe you’re a doctor, so maybe you do. But one could also argue, I feel like, and just say if we were just more informed, right? Like not even just medicine, like maybe they didn’t know back then that garlic was, you know, a thing like, you know what I mean?

Aimee: 00:39:00 Yeah. With the black played, there’s a lot of things. So yeah, it was a virus. Um, antibiotics treat bacteria, not viruses wouldn’t have worked anyways, but the whole thing, both that, yeah. Sanitation, washing your hands. So I’m having running water and homes, I’m taking regular showers, washing your hands, cleaning. Um, those are all things that prevent huge plagues. So the fact that we have running water in the last, I don’t know how long we’ve had running water, but that’s the biggest thing. And countries where there is no running water, you see a whole bunch of illnesses

Josh: 00:39:38 cause it’s standing water. That actually makes a lot of sense. Cause we just had um, there was a case of West Nile virus, actually four, four cases of West Nile virus here in the county that I live in. And there was a big alert everywhere. It was like any form of standing water that you see go dump it out. If you’re by a pond, get away from it. Like, do not let water stand. And I think that that’s probably a huge factor into that. So

Aimee: 00:40:04 Having clean water is what changes the world. Like honestly, it’s that simple. It’s, I it, they, people, you know, say so much about science. Science is wonderful, but having clean water is better,

Josh: 00:40:16 is better. We need to invest a whole lot more money into a clean water to the world. I know.

Aimee: 00:40:22 75% of water our body.

Josh: 00:40:24 Yeah. It’s crazy.

Aimee: 00:40:26 5% of medicine.

Josh: 00:40:28 Right. And that’s actually a super good point, I think. And people say they’re, um, do you happen to know a guy by the name of Alex Charfen?

Aimee: 00:40:36 Yeah, I think I’ve, I’ve heard about him before,

Josh: 00:40:38 yeah, yeah, probably through Amy or whatever. So Alex Charfen is a business coach. Guy Systems do river, uh, performance. He has this water challenge where you’re supposed to drink, I forget how much it was, but basically, you’re supposed to keep a bottle of water by you at all times throughout the day and there you go. So at any time you’re thirsty, you’re supposed to take a drink, right? And you’re supposed to drink at least it’s like x number of gallons. I think he’s over a gallon of water per day and

Aimee: 00:41:05 body. Like if you, um, if you’re fatigued or small, you’re not going to drink as much water.

Josh: 00:41:11 Right. But I did that for a week, 10 days, something like that awhile ago. The difference that it made. And I don’t know why I stopped, honestly, like the difference that it made outside of the fact that I had to use the restroom all the time for that week. I mean like I probably went the bathroom like nine or 10 times in a day, like for that week. It was crazy. But it made a difference. I felt more focused. I felt more complete. I wasn’t as hungry, like not as tired. Right. Not as tired, like more clarity.

Aimee: 00:41:45 Water is a miracle drug.

Josh: 00:41:47 It really is. And if people are always like, take more of, you know, I just need more of whatever and don’t get me wrong. Like I love Adderall, right? Like I love, you know, there are certain things that like every now and then when I’m super focused I’m like, man, I just, or when I’m not focused I need to be, I’m like, ah, you know, give me an Adderall. But like water is kind of like that, you know what I mean? Like when it’s consistent enough and I don’t think people understand did that. So. Hmm. What about, okay, so you mentioned you’ve got these holistic doctors, and actually let me back up. What’s the difference you said between functional and holistic now?

Aimee: 00:42:23 Um, so functional, um, it integrates, um, all kinds of medicines and it really looks as a whole body, as a whole holistic. Um, some doctors do the same and some only focus on holistic treatment so they won’t prescribe you a medication. So I think that it’s more important to look at everything as a whole. And if you need medicine, get medicine. But.

Josh: 00:42:48 I agree with that.

Aimee: 00:42:49 Maybe try all other avenues first maybe.

Josh: 00:42:53 Yeah. How, how important is diet when it comes to health?

Aimee: 00:42:59 I think that it is extremely important. Of course, if you’re going to eat McDonald’s everyday, three times a day, it doesn’t matter what medications you’re going to have, you’re going to be sick,

Josh: 00:43:09 right? So,

Aimee: 00:43:11 medicine and exercise can fix a bad diet. It just can, you can take, there’s not a supplement you can take that’ll make it okay for you to eat McDonald’s three times a day. Sorry. McDonald’s.

Josh: 00:43:24 McDonald’s. Sorry, sorry, my, my love. Uh, [inaudible].

Aimee: 00:43:27 I’ll see you. McDonald’s,

Josh: 00:43:30 I think McDonald’s probably does that better than anyone. Um, so when it, let’s get kind of practical here. Okay. Um, medicine and healing is obviously an incredibly touchy subject and I want to end the conversation with vaccines. So prepare yourself. Um, but let’s be practical in the sense of, well, let’s say I’m a parent and I have a child or I’m a 25 year old like myself and I am, you know, trying to figure out how to take care of myself, what doctors to choose, whatever that maybe, right? How do I determine what is good and what is not good? Or w w how, what am I looking for when it comes to choosing a doctor or finding a, for lack of better word, diet to, you know, finding, finding help in time of sickness. And I know this is kind of broad, but like what are you looking for to say like, Hey, I trust doctor or I trust this style of healing. Um, versus, cause like I can have three different holistic doctors in front of me that probably tell me slightly different things or even very different things. Right? Same thing with traditional doctors. So what specifically am I looking for in a doctor that makes me want to trust them?

Aimee: 00:44:49 Right. So I think, um, a real understanding of the medical promise of first do no harm. Um, and understanding and respect for the mother’s voice because throughout medical history, um, a mother’s voice was not important. So we need to really respect women and the mothers voice. Um, because think about how different your sister would have been if, you know, doctors respected your mother. Um,

Josh: 00:45:16 yeah. For Real.

Aimee: 00:45:18 Yes. So that’s a big issue. Um, a doctor who does those two things is probably going to be a real good doctor. And it’s sad to say that that’s rare, but that’s the main foundation. So a doctor who really respects the woman’s voice is probably gonna respect your child and really want them to be well.

Josh: 00:45:39 When you say first do no harm. Hmm. I feel like there’s a lot of medicine out there that does not follow that.

Aimee: 00:45:46 There is. Yes,

Josh: 00:45:48 But, and I’ve heard that before from, you know, the first no harm. I feel like that’s the kind of like a core principle of doctors though, right? Or should it be,

Aimee: 00:45:56 yeah, I think that they have been, to give an overview. Um, the people who fund the medical textbooks for, um, college students who are becoming doctors is the pharmaceutical companies. And a lot of these young kids who goes to be a doctor, they just listen to whatever they’re being told without much thinking about where this is coming from. And so it’s a lot of mindlessness about it. They’re like, oh, aspirin helps people even if they don’t need it, it helps people regardless. It’s like, no, if you’re giving it to somebody that it doesn’t help, it can give them an ulcer. It can give them the side effects, you know, all of these things. So, no, not necessarily, but they don’t ever think past it. No, they just take what they’re taught and they go with it. They don’t really think much harder than that.

Josh: 00:46:52 And I feel like, I mean it doesn’t make them bad people.

Aimee: 00:46:56 It doesn’t make them bad people. It just, they w they weren’t thinking about it. [inaudible].

Josh: 00:46:59 right. And this is why I think it’s so important and this is why we would, you know, The Think Different Theory podcast, right? I mean, my whole life I’ve thought differently just about pretty much everything. When someone tells me something I’m like, you know, not because like my thought process, especially in regards to this, because I want to be very clear, I’m not, and I don’t think you are either, we’re not bashing doctors, but what we are saying is that whether you’re a doctor or a patient, you don’t want to accept things blindly at face value. Right? Like,

Aimee: 00:47:29 and the best doctors don’t like, let’s be real. The doctors who are number one in their fields will say the exact same thing.

Josh: 00:47:36 Right? And so if your a college student right now, if you are someone that’s wanting to go into the medical practices or whatever, it’s like there is a reason that hospitals and medical practices or whatever are billion dollar companies, right. And are the way that they are. A lot of it isn’t due to corruption. A lot of it is due to the fact that there is genuinely good people involved and good help involve, but I’ll also large majority, especially when you study business and what it takes to scale a business like [inaudible] billion dollar company, you need to be ruthless, right? Like, and you have company, you know, medical companies out there that are multiple billion, you know, multimillion dollar companies. And so I think I would encourage everybody out there and I would be curious your thoughts on this as well. Like be super okay with questioning the status quo. Don’t default to thinking that it’s wrong necessarily, but default to putting in a state of this is unknown until I can prove it. Right. Um, or until I can have legitimate evidence to back up the reason that I believe that. Right. Would you agree?

Aimee: 00:48:49 Yeah.

Josh: 00:48:50 Okay. Last topic because we’re running short on time and I feel like I could talk about this for hours with you. Um,

Aimee: 00:48:56 we got through a lot that we could literally talk for hours on each of those. [inaudible].

Josh: 00:49:02 Um, before we dive into this last one where if people are like, you know, listening or whatever, where can they find a little bit more about you if they wanted to learn more about this?

Aimee: 00:49:11 So, um, I was just showing my book. So I have a website that’s a life with and then I also have my website, which is a, i, m,e,e, t, a r i q. And, um, social media.

Josh: 00:49:26 Perfect. We will link all of that down below and actually we’ll link your book as well. A, it’s on Amazon, um, Amazon bestseller. So guys, pick that up. Um, and we’ll link those down below. So check that out. Let’s move on to this final topic of vaccines. Um, cool. Oh, this is a topic more controversial than the opioid crisis and every other thing combined, I feel like huge. And it’s vanity. I saw a post the other day on Facebook from a lady who is like, her daughter [inaudible] was not allowed to attend school unless she had mandatory vaccines. And a lot of the comments, we’re totally pro that. They were like, yeah, no way should your daughter be allowed to attend school. That’s an eye health threat to every other student in there that has the vaccine. And I’m like, that doesn’t make any sense to me because if you have vaccine and somebody else doesn’t have the vaccine, shouldn’t you be protected? So like, I don’t know enough about vaccines to make an informed decision. Absolutely. One way or the other. I know that I default not to having them except when absolutely needed. Um, I’m getting ready to go on a world trip. There are mandatory vaccines in some of the countries that we’re going to, we’re going to get those vaccines. And I have, I was vaccinated as a child. Um, I don’t want to go into, you know, personal information about, you know, families and what vaccines that we’ve had. But I think that my mom’s, uh, view on vaccines is kind of where I stand, which is, um, vaccines aren’t inherently bad, I don’t believe, but it seems to be a pretty stupid idea to ingest a six month old or a three day old child with 20 different vaccines when they’re just coming into this world. Where do you stand on vaccines?

Aimee: 00:51:24 What’s interesting is that children don’t even have an immune system until they’re like two years old, which is why they can’t eat honey before they’re a certain age. Because if they eat honey, they die because they don’t have an immune system. So where, where giving them vaccines for their immune system that they don’t have. So that’s an interesting point to think of

Josh: 00:51:47 about then. Like if that, if that’s the case and you know, way more about this than I do. Right. So like this is a genuine question here is like why would a doctor, hmm do it, but what is it a money thing? Like is that really what it’s about? Like it seems to me that some doctor Ma, I mean I know there’s millions of them.

Aimee: 00:52:08 Hi, people are listening right now. And they’re angry. Like,

Josh: 00:52:13 by the way, I’m not angry.

Aimee: 00:52:20 I hear it,

Josh: 00:52:22 but like it just doesn’t make sense to me and I have not heard. And, and once again, I want to hear your opinion on this, but like I have not heard a single legitimate argument, and I’m not saying it’s not out there, but I personally have not heard a single legitimate argument that makes logical sense to me to ingest the dozens of vaccines that go into a baby. Now, some older time in life, like I have my tetanus shot, I have like, I’ve, I think I’ve had all the vaccines when I was, even when I was younger, my mom wasn’t anti vaccines and I don’t want to say she’s anti-vaccine. He’s, I don’t wanna put words in her mouth, but like, they backed that like I’m vaccinated, right? So like, but for me, and I’m like, I turned out just fine. Right. So, but it doesn’t make sense. So,

Aimee: 00:53:07 um, yeah, so it doesn’t really make sense to give it to a newborn baby who doesn’t have an immune system, but you know, people are going to say what they want regardless of Roger. I’m also, um, there’s a lot of um, okay, so just because you take aspirin, every doesn’t mean that I can do it and not have a reaction to it. Right? So every person has a different microbiology, they have different, um, gut flora. They have a different um, environment. They have different genetic variables. They have different, everything about, uh, each person individual is different. So while one person can take a ton of medical pain medications or even a ton of alcohol and not feel anything, I take just a little bit of alcohol and I’m drunk. So everybody has different thresholds for everything. There are variables for everything. So what’s interesting also in vaccines, a vaccine for a child is the same. For an adult, a vaccine for a little girl is the same as a six foot man. Um, so these are all very interesting. Nowhere, nowhere, nowhere else in medicine would we be doing this. But you know, it’s okay here apparently. So the other problem is not the virus that’s in the vaccine. Um, but all of the heavy metals and other ingredients that they put into vaccines, which is what causes a lot of reactions. Now, if you have, if you have the MTHFR gene mutation, which you know, people are saying doesn’t exist, isn’t real. It’s real. It’s scientifically proven. You are allergic to heavy metals. I am, for example, I can only wear platinum. So that is the most expensive metal. These earrings, they are platinum. They cost me a lot of money. My wedding ring cost me a lot of money. I am allergic to silver. I’m allergic to any other metal that isn’t.

Josh: 00:55:07 This is interesting.My girlfriend’s the same way except not for platinum. Hers is gold. Like she can only wear pure gold any form of any other metal. Her whole skin goes into allergic reaction.

Aimee: 00:55:16 She probably has that gene mutation. She should look into it. Yes, she, she needs to look into that, um, at a, at all. Also, if she has that, it also means that she is very sensitive to pain medications. Taking the, uh, loaded dose for pain medication could kill her in the future. So she should probably, like, I’ll look into that. Now of course a lot of people will say that’s not real. It’s not real. Well, it is real. You know, I see the best doctors in the world, I have money. Um, it’s a real thing. Um, and so whenever you give these people vaccines, they have reactions. And then on top of that, um, whatever you give, for example, on the packet itself, it says, do not give to pregnant women or to people with chronic illness. And also do not give to somebody who is constantly around somebody with chronic illness. Who would that be? Um, some doctors and you know, caretakers and of course other people. So why are they pushing vaccines for pregnant women? If right there on the packet it says not tested how it reacts with pregnant women. That’s another issue. And then we see, um, we see issues where with people with chronic illness or going through cancer, um, and they have immune, um, they, they’re lacking in immune system. So what happens with many vaccines that actually sheds the virus. So then for example, whenever I can have an immune system cause of everything I was going through, um, Imran was forced to take the MMR even though she already had measles, he already had chicken pox and he had antibodies to all of that. He was still forced to take that even though he had rubella even he’s had all of those things because he got sick with that as a kid and um, and he was already vaccinated with it as well. His parents were doctors. Um, so he was already vaccinated. He already even had those diseases, but he was still told that he had to take it, take, get that vaccine. He took it and then I was immunocompromised and I got, yeah, I got horrible, horrible rashes all over my body. I had to wear gloves, I had fever. It sucked for me. And I had, I remember telling the doctors like, but I’m immunocompromised, he’s going to be around me. And it says right there, like, can there be a way around it? They didn’t let us have a way around it. Now lawyers and fight all that, but you know, whatever. Um, so they risk people’s lives and they say that they’re saving people’s life. And, and you know what’s interesting in a lot of those comments, they say you have to take a vaccine because you have to protect the people who are immunocompromised and can’t take vaccines. I was amino compromise. They forced my husband to take the vaccine and I got infected. They don’t freaking care. They don’t freaking care whether you take the flu. Now there’s the flu vaccine that’s through the nose. Whenever you take that, it spreads to everyone. I got sick so many times because everyone around me was getting those flu vaccines. So whenever people make the argument, it’s to protect the people who don’t have an immune system. That was me and nobody protected me.

Josh: 00:58:22 So what? Oh, man, he’s so messed up. And if you’re a pro, if you’re pro vaccine, I don’t hate you. Right? Like, it’s, it’s fine. I’m, I’m just, I’m genuinely trying to understand that,

Aimee: 00:58:33 Pro vaccine that works,

Josh: 00:58:36 right? So here’s my question. If a vaccine worked, all right? So like, let’s use the school example. Uh, required to do, you know, for you to go in and, you know, everybody had the vaccine, um, 50 kids in a room. If 40 of those kids have the vaccine and 10 of them don’t and one person comes in with that sickness, the nine people,

Aimee: 00:59:03 it’s proven that all of those times that it’s been spread was spread through people who had the vaccine and the virus shed. So you can’t spread it.

Josh: 00:59:13 Right. So with, with the vaccine though,

Aimee: 00:59:16 so the people who are, um, who are in danger are the people who don’t the vaccines, not the ones who already have it.

Josh: 00:59:22 And that’s my, my, as my thinking, right. If you, if I choose not to have a vaccine, I am saying, okay, listen, I understand. Okay. So for example, I’ve been vaccinated for chicken box. There was a big discussion on whether or not a friend of mine, um, was going to get. And this was when we were much younger. But, um, a friend of mine was like, I don’t know well for front of my parents, wherever they were like, hey, I don’t know whether or not we’re going to give our kids the chicken pox vaccine now. I believe they ended up doing it, you know, because of, you know, the, the health concerns or whatever for the chicken box, whatever. But like, I’m sitting there thinking, and I remember thinking this, why should, like if I have the vaccine and you don’t want to get the vaccine, why would I care? Right? Like, I’m not like if the vaccine is doing its job, shouldn’t I not have to worry about getting chickenpox when somebody or, or any disease, right. I don’t understand that

Aimee: 01:00:17 heard, um, heard effect and that they, they say that it’s because of the herd effect that you know, everybody, and I heard it has to get it, but you know, people who believe that won’t see anything outside of it.

Josh: 01:00:29 I, yeah, I just don’t, it just doesn’t make any logical sense to me. If you want to choose yourself to be protected and you want to get the vaccine and you’ve done your research and are like, Yup, I think vaccines are fine. Go and do that. But it doesn’t make any sense to me why somebody else should have to. Because if somebody else doesn’t have it, if you do have it, you literally got it. So you wouldn’t get the disease, not, you don’t, I just don’t understand.

Aimee: 01:00:53 Yeah. I mean, what you’re touching on is an American principle in the constitution. We have a right for liberty and, um, liberty consents. So we have a right to choose. It’s in the constitution. It’s our constitutional right. It’s our human rights to choose not to do certain medical procedures. They’re taking away that right. Um, but unconstitutional for them to take away. Alright. To medical consent. And that’s why the next thing that they’re taking, trying to take away is homeschooling.

Josh: 01:01:29 Yeah, that’s super. And I was homeschooled my whole life and my, all my, all my siblings were, and um, there’s an organization called HSL DEA, which is the homeschool legal defense association, which is incredible. Um, and we’re friends with a lot of people over there. We’ve given money to that. Um, my parents were very involved in that as well. Um, I’m a huge believer in homeschooling. I am a huge believer in that. I I firmly expect to, and they are, and it is kind of context around that. We were originally like a 32nd backstory of my life. My parents sold, my dad quit his job, sold the house, they packed everything that we had in the back of an RV and we started driving across the country. We had no idea we were going to go. This was when I was 11. We were headed to Vermont. We ended up in Indiana. The reason that my parents stayed in Indiana was because the Vermont homeschooling laws were terrible and the Indiana homeschooling were amazing and it was much easier to homeschool in Indiana and that’s why we ended up staying in Indiana. So like homeschooling, I’m really, really big on homeschooling. Okay. Do, do you have time for one more question?

Aimee: 01:02:29 Oh, absolutely. Okay.

Josh: 01:02:31 Last question. Once again, really practical and just actually before I do that vaccines guys do your research. We’re not saying that they’re going to kill you, that they’re off all the terrible, you’re a horrible human being. I’m just saying I don’t get why everybody thinks that they need to have them. Everybody else does. From a perspective of there’s a lot of people that don’t have money medicine especially in today’s era is ridiculously expensive. I used to sell life and health insurance like you know it, I know it. Anybody that’s been in the medical community for any number of times knows this is absolutely insane. Um, for those people that don’t have money but want to be informed and want to know their options and need to get started, what, where would you recommend? Is there, is there a website or is there a set of resources, a book where they can go to start learning about alternatives to traditional medicine or no, how to save money with [inaudible]? Um, you know, stuff. Yeah. Is, it is a resources for those people that don’t have money because you know, you’re blessed. I’m blessed. But like a lot of people aren’t. Where would you recommend them start?

Aimee: 01:03:41 Really difficult now because now even on Google, um, they have decided to penalize any sites that are like that. So they are now more difficult to find it on Google. Yeah. Yeah. It’s, yeah. Okay. And, um, I don’t know what to say. It’s going to be much harder now than it was five years ago. Um, everybody’s getting penalized for, for, you know, promoting, um, holistic ideas. And so there is no freedom of speech right now. We’re seeing that being taken away. There is no, um, right to choose. There’s no medical consent right now. We are seeing all of our rights being taken away, Little Bible. Um, and a lot of people are okay with that and pro that, but, you know, do you want to see America be gone fine? But so, yeah. So right now, um, it’s very difficult. Books costs a lot of money. I’ve spent over thousands of dollars on all of my books for all of these things. So I, I spent as much on my books as like people pay for like a full college education. Yeah. Books are expensive. Um, it’s going to be hard. But like just online Reese, if you don’t have any money than the best you can do is online research. But it’s going to be really, really difficult now. So you just have to push through it. If you don’t have money, the best thing is finding a way to get money. Unfortunately. And it sounds so privileged to say, but yeah, actually easier to find a way to get money at this point than it is to try to jump through all those hoops and it sounds terrible and it is privileged. You know what it is and this is sort of on purpose. They don’t want people without money….

Josh: 01:05:23 To have access, right? Yeah. And it’s sad. So for those of you out there that are listening or if you have friends that are like, you know, and a lot of you either listening probably are the motivated, driven individual type. But if you have friends out there that are struggling financially or if that is you, we, I think as Amy alluded to, we’re, we’re both very aware of the fact that just saying go find money is an incredibly controversial or a privileged thing to say,

Aimee: 01:05:48 but that’s, this is like the gravity of this situation. It’s literally easier to do that than to try to jump through all these hoops and work.

Josh: 01:05:57 W we’re, we’re telling you that out of love out of caringness like I know if you’ve never made money before or if you’ve only worked a nine to five job where you make $14 an hour for your whole life. Like the thought of going out there and finding money is like this foreign concept. But I’m telling you like it is not that difficult, especially when you put it, I would, I would venture to say

Aimee: 01:06:19 your oxygen mask you have to put on your oxygen mask.

Josh: 01:06:22 Exactly. And I would venture to say that it is going to be substantially, significantly, significantly easier for you to go out in the next six months or a year from now to learn how to make an extra, even if you made an extra $20,000 in the next 12 months and use that $20,000 to go get access to your medicine or, um, to the, the medical researches and the information that’s out there, it is significantly easier to do that then try to spend the next 12 months saving every penny that you have to and, and going out and doing things. So like there’s so many ways now with the Internet, it’s a double edged sword, but

Aimee: 01:06:54 right now in the world that we live, if you don’t have money, it’s going to be very hard for you to be healthy. And I, it sucks and I’m sorry that it is that way, but it’s how it is. I don’t want it to be that way, but

Josh: 01:07:05 nobody does. Well, that’s a lie. There are definitely people that do. Nobody with a heart, I believe does. But, um, yeah. Last question for you, and this is just a quick question because we had on our last one, I want you to say it again. I asked you on the last interview that we did, if someone could ta do one thing per day, uh, to help move them in the direction of staying healthy, one simple thing that anybody could do, what would that thing be? I want to see if your answer’s the same.

Aimee: 01:07:31 Oh, okay. I remember last time what my answer was, but now this time I really want to say drink water. Yeah. So be grateful. Wake up every morning and just dwell in gratitude and just have the spirit of grateful for what you have because stress kills more people than anything else. So you can be, you can have the best science in the world, but if you’re miserable, you’re going to die faster than somebody who eats McDonald’s regularly. So just taking care of your inner self.

Josh: 01:08:06 Yeah, I think that’s super important. There’s a study I read, I think it was from Harvard, I think it was Harvard. Um, they came out with this study that said that it scientifically proven people that, uh, stress and worry, um, age faster and, um, die sooner. Um, like that’s insane. Yeah. So

Aimee: 01:08:25 well can smoke cigarettes until they’re like 90 something and be fine while somebody does it like 10 times and

Josh: 01:08:31 they have cancer. Right. So drink water, uh, be grateful and thankful. And the thing that you said last time too, which really stuck out to me because I did not do this enough, was eat fruits, fruits and vegetables every single day. Like it was just like one thing, eat fruits and vegetables every single day. Um, which I tried to do now. Um, I tried to get in some form of salad or whatever. I have my terrible habit of Starbucks, but I try to offset that with, with some fruits and vegetables.

Aimee: 01:08:56 Well, I’m proud of you for doing that.

Josh: 01:08:57 I try drinking green juice. Actually.

Aimee: 01:09:00 That’s what I do. Yes.

Josh: 01:09:01 So I, I go to the Walmart and buy the, Eh, the organic, I think it’s Bolthouse farms or something like that over the organic section. I just buy these huge bottles and I drink like one every other day. So trying to get clean there. So, um, Amy, this has been absolutely amazing. Um, I want to move to some really quick rapid fire questions if you don’t mind. Um, and for those of you that are looking for more research resources, um, learn more about Amy, we’re going to link her website, her book, all the links and stuff down below. I’m also going to link, this is not related to Amy, but I also am going to link a Facebook group called wellness rising. Um, a friend of mine who they’re out of Chicago that actually they’re moving to Las Vegas, um, who are very, very proactive when it comes to health and wellness. I’m very big into organic. They’re very big into um, governments like government regulations against like 5g and like five g health and everything that’s going on there and bees and honey. Um, they have a lot of really good free resources. So I’m going to link that group down below along with Amy’s book and her website or whatever. So make sure to check that out. Okay. Rapid fire questions really quick. Um, what has been your favorite book or resource that you personally have read? Um, that was the most eye opening for you when it comes to health and wellness?

Aimee: 01:10:15 Ooh, that’s a hard one. Um, I really liked, yeah, I’m gonna say, um, it’s just so difficult because there’s so many aspects of health. I really love all of Gladys’s his books. So I want to say, um, to read that first and foremost. But then, um, that wasn’t the first book that I read that really open my eyes to everything. Um, I’d have to say, um, I was always very interested and, um, science and medicine and why we do the things we do. So one of my first books that I read was, um, the study of breast implants, the history of breasts. And so, um, why do people get implants and why do we do that even though we know that it makes a lot of people sick. Um, and one of the reasons why I was interested in that is because whenever I was living in Spain, when I was 17, it all over the news, you know, um, all of the side effects of breast implants and that’s unspoken of in the United States. Um, and it’s still unspoken up right as a lot of other countries are open about it. And so that was one of the first books that I read and it was so eye opening that, you know, it didn’t talk just about implants. It talks about how powerful a woman’s breasts are. Yes.

Josh: 01:11:38 Interesting.

Aimee: 01:11:38 So, um, whenever we feed the children that we birthed, it went into all the details of that, but also how American breast milk has more pesticides and fire fire retardants and our breast milk than anyone else’s in Europe and other places. And because, you know, there’s some foods that allow that you, I think the laws might’ve changed now, but they used to allow fire retardants inside of foods like Gatorade or things like that. Um, and of course all over our furniture and all this stuff. So there’s a lot of differences. And our breast milk because we were in America versus safer and safer in the sense of toxin free countries. So, um, that was such a huge, huge eye opener about how something that we don’t think about can have such a tremendous effect, not just on us, but on generations to come.

Josh: 01:12:37 Huh. That’s super, super cool. Um, what has been the thing that you have done in your life that has received the most criticism?

Aimee: 01:12:46 Everything. Um, oh, that’s hard. Um, I guess like really, you know, I just did everything that everybody told me that I shouldn’t do. You know, I dropped out of college, I got married young. I, um, I healed in my own way, not how the doctors told me. I didn’t take a normal nine to five. I did a business. Um, literally everything that I’ve done.

Josh: 01:13:14 That’s awesome. I love that. That’s just so me in every way. Just go out there and do it. Um,

Aimee: 01:13:21 How about the viewers?You take what you hate the most.

Aimee: 01:13:24 Yeah, viewers, What do you hate the most? The fact that she’s anti-vaccine. The fact that she’s anti-medicine the fact that she was, oh man. Second last rapid second last rabbit by, I’m sure.

Aimee: 01:13:38 made it to this part they’ve already made.

Josh: 01:13:41 I’m sure they have. They probably are damning me on, on Instagram at right now. They’re like, how dare you have someone that’s anti-vaccine, not, oh my guys, we do love you. And once again, this is the thing different there. We’re going to have contract, we’re going to have controversial people on here all over the place. So that’s good. That’s good. Um, where has it been the favorite place that you have traveled to? I know you said you’re, you’ve traveled a lot around the world. I’m getting ready to go on a four month world trip, which is super exciting. Um, what’s been your favorite place?

Aimee: 01:14:09 It’s hard to pick. Um, I’m not, I’m gonna skip scenery because in so many beautiful Paley’s with, with natural wonders, I can’t, so I’m gonna not do that category. I’m gonna say arts. Cause I love arts. And Barcelona is the most beautiful artistic place. There’s, the arts is everywhere. Um, yes, Goudy, do some research on him, see all of his art things that you can see. And it blew my mind. I think I was, I think it was 14 when I first went to Barcelona and, um, it’s still my favorite place to this day.

Josh: 01:14:52 Wow, that’s awesome. We’ll have to stop by Barcelona then we’re going to, um, [inaudible] uh, Barcelona, Spain. Uh, we’re going to Ibiza, so, um, we’ll have to swing by, uh, Barcelona. Then maybe there’s, since we’re gonna be right there doing for yard do over the art. Um, all right, last question and I’ve asked you this question before, but you’re gonna have to answer it again because you know, we are doing this interview for the second time. Um, fast forward to the end of your life. You’re on your death bed and everything that you’ve done is wiped away. Nobody knows who you are. However, every single person that you’ve touched or influenced in your life, either directly or indirectly, you get to leave them with a final message about life. What is that message?

Aimee: 01:15:34 you’re capable,

Josh: 01:15:35 you’re capable.

Aimee: 01:15:36 You’re capable to do anything.

Josh: 01:15:38 Do you want to expound upon that at all? Because I feel like that’s kind of deep.

Aimee: 01:15:43 We have so many possibilities and there are the world. By the time, if, if I live to be 90 something, the world is going to be so different. Yeah. That we can’t even imagine. And that in itself proves everything we’re capable of. Like right now we are capable of world peace. We’re capable of it. We just got to do it. Like we’re capable of so many things, whether it be rural world peace or having the coolest gadgets or living a life that we’re proud of, we’re capable of it all.

Josh: 01:16:20 I think it’s interesting that you say that, especially with the analogy of, but how old are you now? 25 25 so if you live to be, that’s crazy. Um, so have you lived to be 90 I mean that’s another 65 years. Like you look at your life 25 years ago, like when you were born, that was, you know, 1994. Right. Um, so I was born in 94 too.

Aimee: 01:16:40 Everybody had cellphones

Josh: 01:16:41 Yeah. So phone wasn’t the thing or the Internet basically wasn’t a thing, right? I mean it was just coming to them thing. Amazon was founded in 1994 so Amazon wasn’t a thing. Facebook like, does that mean, that’s pretty incredible where we’ve come in 25 years and we’re talking one, two and a half more of those. Um, and how different the world is going to look then. I mean, I’m sure like, I don’t know. Teleportation probably be a thing. Who knows? Um, so that is crazy and we are capable of so, so much. So Amy, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it. Thank you for staying late, um, and doing this. This has been absolutely a pleasure. I can’t wait to put this interview out and get all the hate comments back. So no.

Aimee: 01:17:21 song about it. We should like make a rap song about all the hate every day.

Josh: 01:17:25 Hey guys, if you’re hating on us, just know, give us some good content, because we’re gonna… we’re gonna have to read off some DMs in this rap thing, and be like, you know, I don’t know the… caught their username on Instagram said, but, and then just wrap it. That’d be fun. And… and, I know Lauren, you know Lauren, Lauren talked to… to Immy and was like, “Yo, if we ever do a song like, you know, can you get us a jet?” And he’s like, “Oh yeah, we’ll get you a private jet.” So we’ll have to… we’ll have to go out, and you and me on a private jet about all that, the hate DMs, about the anti-vaccine people. Talk about white privilege right there. Oh my gosh! This is so politically incorrect. Alright, Aimee, thank you so much for coming on. Okay, that’s perfect. So we’re not white privilege, it’s just me. Alright, guys. Aimee, thank you so much for coming on, I appreciate it. Guys, this has been, The Think Different Theory with Josh Forti and Aimee Tariq. You know where to find us on Instagram @JoshForti, @ThinkDifferentTheory. Hit me up with a DM. Let us know your feedback, what you liked, what you didn’t like. As always, hustle, hustle, God bless. Do not be afraid to think different. Thinking different is literally the cornerstone of being able to go out and create change in the world. And, whether that’s in the medical industry or not, whatever field that you’re in, thinking different is the cornerstone of that. So make sure to think different. I love you all, and I will see you on the next episode. Take it easy fam. Peace!

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