Think Different Theory

The Making of Josh Forti – Part 3: From Farm Boy to King of Social Media



This is part 3 (of 3) of “The Making Of Josh Forti” and I’m going to talk to you about my insurance job, what my last boss taught me, how a course changed my life, and how even though I wasn’t the smartest kid, I was determined and that is what matters.

We will end with where I am at with my life today, and announce a new project for this podcast, which is a few “Mini-Series”. I’ll tell you the name of the first mini-series at the end of this episode, so listen up.

By the end of this episode, you’ll understand exactly why I spent so much time sharing my story with you.


I really wanted to share my story with you to underscore that determination and hard work can take you so far. The jobs and experiences I’ve had helped to shape me into the person that I am today, as well as help form the goals I have for the future. I think you will find it encouraging!

Here are the key topics discussed in this episode:

  • How I met my last boss and what she taught me (3:40)
  • Why I had to leave that job (8:30)
  • The course that changed my life (12:20)
  • Trust your ability to figure it out (19:56)
  • What my dream life looks like (21:50)
  • If I can do it, so can you (25:45)


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March 1, 2019


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(00:00)  I don’t know if you’ve ever been in that situation, but it’s embarrassing. I was so depressed and so low. Like when you can’t even buy your girlfriend dinner or pay the bills because you’re that broke. Like that’s where I was at. I didn’t tell anybody like not even my parents like nobody knew because I was too embarrassed. And so no matter where you’re at in life now, life can change real quick, but you’ve got to, you’ve got to power through and just never give up. Here’s my issue. I wanted to find the answers to life’s biggest questions. Things like how do I become happy and live with purpose? How do I make more money doing what I love and what does it mean to be truly successful in all areas of life? My name is Josh Forti @joshforti on Instagram and I asked life’s biggest questions and share the answers with you. My goal is to help you find purpose, happiness, and open your mind to new realms of possibility by helping you think differently about everything you do know and understand on this podcast we think different. We dream bigger and we live in a world without minutes. This is a new paradigm. Welcome to The Think Different Theory.

(01:17) What’s going on guys? Welcome back to another episode of The Think Different Theory. My name is Josh Forti and we are on episode number 32 welcome back to the show and we’re on part number 3 of a 3-part podcast sequence or series, whatever you want to call it of my story. So two episodes ago on Monday I started talking about my story and really took you back to when I was nine years old and told you my story of my entrepreneurship journey really all the way back then even though it wasn’t really entrepreneurship, but my story of what I’ve gone through and took you from California to Indiana to from lemonade to hot chocolate and cookies to moving across country and baking bread and shovelling snow and moving again and having to get creative and working at a gun range and raising chickens and starting a company and having it fail and just all sorts of a crazy ride.

(02:12)  And I want to kind of dive right into this because this might be a little bit more content or a little bit longer episode. And I want to kind of respect that, that 25-30 minute timeframe that I’ve been going on these. So I really want to dive right in. So if you haven’t listened to the two previous episodes, I highly, highly recommend doing that because there are some amazing points in there and some really good learning experiences and they’re all building up to kind of this release or this unveiling of these mini-sequences that we’re going to be doing starting with the first one next week. And so I’m very excited about that, but I want to dive into the story, kind of let you know what’s coming up and give you the next part. So I’m going to dive in right where we left off.

(02:54) So where we left off last time I had just had this failed business with my partner, had lost everything, was very upset. It felt like I had no vision, felt like the last, you know, nine, 10, 11 years of my life that I’d been saving and working for towards, uh, it just kind of ended up in nothing. And I kind of want to jump ahead in the story because basically what happened over the next year as I did odds and ends jobs. I kind of worked for my dad a little bit, worked for, you know, my neighbor a little bit, jumped around and did a couple college classes and decided it wasn’t for me, dropped out and then ultimately I worked at Olive Garden for about seven months and then ultimately I ended up getting a job in insurance sales for a lady named Cheryl Lee and that’s where the next part of the story really we want to pick up off of.

(03:41) I met Cheryl through actually her daughters, uh, we were friends through 4H and she ended up giving me a job. I don’t know why she saw something in me that nobody else saw, I guess and thought, you know, I want to give back. And I was her way of giving back and she really brought me under her wing and gave me an opportunity in the insurance sales world. So up until this point I had a lot of failures, a lot of setbacks of things that didn’t work. I learned a tremendous amount about, you know, door to door, like interactions with customers and sales to the B to C space. But now I had my first real job selling insurance life and health insurance, two businesses. This was selling B to B. This was not an individual. And Cheryl gave me this opportunity and quite honestly, I don’t know why she, I mean she took me under her wing and taught me sales and taught me the insurance world and uh, really was, was honing me and opened up my mind to an entirely new realm of possibility of, of money and mindset.

(04:41) And so I worked for Cheryl and started on my 21st birthday is when I ended up getting this job is when I started and I studied to get my insurance licenses so that I could do this. And Cheryl ended up paying for a lot of the clothes that I wore for like the suits and the ties and stuff cause I couldn’t afford it and it didn’t have nice enough clothes to actually go and be presentable to these business owners. And so I had a tremendous amount of experience in sales door to door. And that summer I think I knocked on somewhere close to 400 to 500 business doors handing out business cards. And I was just so bad at it because I didn’t know what I was doing that I only signed like one or two clients in that whole entire summer of like knocking on 500 doors had doors literally slammed in my face at during this timeframe.

(05:32) But the key thing that I want to focus on here as we kind of lead up to these next steps, is Cheryl opened up my mindset to what was possible in the business world and that there’s no shortage of money in this world and that if you can provide value, people continue to come back to you and that you can just create massive amounts of abundance. Cheryl had a very similar backstory to I what I did. She grew poor and uh, became successful and had this insurance company – it was a brokerage firm and I learned all about that. And as I would go over there and at the beginning I would stay until like eight or nine o’clock at night and I would learn, I go over there, you know, eight and nine o’clock in the morning and I was there like 10, 11, 12 hour days trying to learn as much as I possibly could.

(06:15) And Cheryl kept telling me, she’s like, Josh, one day, this is all gonna make sense to you. One day you’re going to open up your eyes and you’re going to see, and it’s all gonna make sense. And it did eventually one day. And I had a phone call with her about that and it was just phenomenal. But I was, I was constantly learning and trying to figure out like what those next steps are. Those next steps were because in my mind I was still chasing money and I remember telling her, I’ll never forget this. Um, the house there, they had this like concrete pad driveway. Um, and I was over at their house and I was walking out of the house and I would look back at Cheryl and I said, Cheryl, in five years from now, I want to be making $100,000 a year.

(06:57) And she said, Josh, if you work really hard, that’s possible through what we’re doing right now, but you can do far more than that. And I went, Oh man, I just didn’t see how this was. I mean, I was making like $20,000, $25,000 a year at that time. Like basically nothing, just enough to cover my expenses and pay my bills. And what Cheryl did during that timeframe was getting me to think differently about what I knew and it took me like her, like grinding my head against a grindstone basically to, to get me to change the way I act in the way I talked in the way I thought and the way I talk to customers. But I owe her so much because I learned so much during that timeframe. But I remember waking up one day and laying, I think it was a Saturday morning.

(07:41)  I’m not exactly sure, but I remember I stayed at home that day. Um, and I remember thinking, this isn’t really what I want to do for the rest of my life. And I remember thinking back if you didn’t listen to the last episode is very, very important. Okay. I talked about vision and having this vision and all the way up in my life up until this point, I had no vision of what the future was gonna look like. I just knew I wanted to be rich. I want to know my own business. And for me, this was my way to, to that of, you know, making a lot of money. But I realized I didn’t want a boss. I wanted to be able to work from anywhere and I wanted to do something that I actually liked. Something that I was passionate about and honestly selling insurance to these companies and wearing shirts and ties every day just wasn’t what I was passionate about.

(08:25) And my boss was amazing. It was the best job I’ve ever had, but it wasn’t what I was passionate about. And I remember thinking for the first time, having this vision of I want to be able to work from home. I want to be able to go out there and spread this message of helping people and helping people get better. And I want to be able to travel with work and, and basically work from a laptop, go wherever that was. And so for the first time, I started actually like painting out what this vision was going to look like and didn’t really know how I was going to get there. But I started putting it out there and gave it to God and put it out there into the energy of the universe and you know what God’s created. And I was like, this is what I want.

(09:04) How do I go and get there? And I remember sitting in a board meeting with a big client that my boss had and him saying, you know, the future of our sales is online specifically really on social media. Social media is the future of marketing and advertising. And I was like, Huh, okay, well how do I, how do I take advantage of that? And I’m like, captivate that. And I would sit in other board meetings and they would be running TV ads and all these other ads. And I was like, why would they be doing that? Like that’s not where my attention is. It’s on social media. I’m their target market here. And so I literally went home and got on Google and typed in “How to make money online”. And during this timeframe, money was really tight for me.

(09:50)  All right. Like I didn’t have a whole lot. I only had a couple hundred dollars in savings and I was basically living paycheck to paycheck. Some of it was because of foolish decisions for me, but I also just wasn’t making a whole lot. And I remember at this time that as I was learning and kind of evolving. I had a girlfriend at the time and I wanted to take her out. I want to take her out to dinner. And, uh, I, I’d been saving up some money and kind of putting some money aside and my tire, I, I hit a curb and like my tire popped and I messed up the front end of my car and I couldn’t afford to take this girl to dinner to a nice dinner because I had to pay for the car and I was like struggling to kind of pay bills at the time.

(10:36)  Like I was like coming down to like within $50 each month is all I had like leftover like $25 to $50 each month. And I remember like having to call her and be like, “Hey, like can we like to go and go somewhere else? And I think we went to Mcdonald’s or something”, cause that’s all I could afford. And you were talking about embarrassing. That’s embarrassing. And that was a really, really low point in my life. And I came back and I didn’t tell my parents, I didn’t tell anyone cause I was too embarrassed. I didn’t tell them I was having financial problems. I was supposed to be the guy that had money all figured out. Big dreams, saving my money, working hard, making all this, you know, living the good life. He just wasn’t and I was trying to figure it out so desperately. But I remember making a commitment right there, right there.

(11:19) And then as I got home and I sat in this ugly green chair, I just made a commitment. I was like, I am gonna make it. I’m going to go build the life that I know that I can build. I don’t know what it’s going to take. I don’t know how I’m gonna do it, but I’m going to do it. And, and I got to have this vision and I got to know where I’m going. And I sat down and I drew out as clear as I could and it wasn’t very clear, but I knew that I wanted to work for myself. I knew I wanted to be able to travel. I knew I wanted to be able to work from a laptop and I wrote down that I was going to make money online because that’s, you know, that was the future.

(11:49) What this guy has said. And so I started studying it and in the meantime had to pay bills. I had to pay off the credit card that I had put that I put the, it was like $400 bill or something like that for my car and I paid it off and uh, I had to like how to make money for it. And so I started driving for Uber and I’m making a little money that way and I paid that off and I just started studying, googling stuff online, like how to make money, how to make money, how to make money. And I came across an Instagram course and I know a lot of people like kind of bash courses and they’re like, oh a course. This course that like guys, of course, changed my life. All right. Education and knowledge that happened to be in the form of a course really changed my life forever.

(12:27) So I watch this webinar, watch this training. And I was convinced that this course, this Instagram training program was my ticket to success and it was $2,000. Now you might as well as it was $2 million for me at that time. Like that was so far out of my price range of what I thought was possible. Um, and I was like, man, I got to start saving for it cause I had like a little emergency fund of a couple of hundred bucks and then I was basically living paycheck to paycheck and I wasn’t complaining about the at the time, like I knew I wanted to get rich but like I could have been smarter with my money, but you know, I was learning at the time and so what did I do? I went back and I started driving for Uber and I took 100 bucks and I went to goodwill and I bought up as much stuff as I could at goodwill for 100 bucks, like filing cabinets and massage chairs and all that and started flipping it on like Facebook and on Craig’s list and like selling it there as much as I could until I could pay, uh, pay for the next things.

(13:17)  And My car window broke and I had to like duct tape it up in the middle of wintertime and had like pay to get that fixed and just all sorts of stuff that came up. But I saved it. I saved it, I saved, I had about 8 or 900 bucks saved and the course went on sale for $997 and I ended up buying it and I put it, the rest of the credit card ended up paying that off and that course fundamentally changed my life. And when I bought it I went and I said, you know what? This is my ticket to my vision and there’s a lot more than I could go into, but the important part of the story is I bought the course and I locked myself in a bedroom and I went really, really hard on that course for the whole entire weekend.

(13:55) And I watched it like three times, or I’m sorry, twice during that weekend, like every single video, stayed up all night, one night, barely slept, took notes, and then I just went and started applying and as I was working for my boss and as I was working in the insurance job, I went and I was growing followers on Instagram. And then I got 1,001 I got my first thousand I believed, and I believed that this was the key to the vision. I didn’t know what the next steps were, but I had this course and I was like, this is what I’m going to do. But I had this vision in the future of it and I was like, I know where I’m going. Not super, super clear, but I have enough of a vision to know that that’s where I want to get. And I kept going and kept going and I kept going and I got to 5,000 then 10,000, 20,000, 30,000, 50,000 and 70,000 and then in about August of that year, I think I’ve kind of told the story before on the podcast a little bit.

(14:40) I ended up partnering up with a business partner and we ended up building an Instagram agency around this because I bought a course and I bought a training program and I committed to it and I didn’t let my lack of knowledge get in my way. And there were things along the way that I try to have some shiny object syndrome and thereafter it, you know, after a little bit and blew the money that I was making. You know, cause I, by the way, I was driving for Uber, I was working for my boss and I was trying this Instagram stuff. I was working 18 hours a day, seven days a week. I locked myself in a bedroom and I was just studying and studying and studying and learning and learning and growing and doing everything that I possibly could. And that ultimately through trial and error and seven or eight months of that learning eventually got me to the point where all of a sudden now I could charge for my services, I could charge for growing people’s Instagram account.

(15:32) And it was a huge mental block. I thought I can only charge a couple hundred bucks, but took me seven or eight months of learning. And I see so many people right now that they just give up after a week or two. It was seven or eight months for me before I started seeing money come in. And even then it wasn’t enough to pay the bills. And it wasn’t until it was nine months, cause it wasn’t until December when I ended up quitting my job, or it was like October or November timeframe when I put in my two weeks and went part-time. But it took that whole thing of me going all in and really just never ever giving up. And I remember looking back and going back to that night when I just like was crying and you know, making the decision to change my life after I had to tell my girlfriend I couldn’t even buy dinner.

(16:12)  I remember that I need a vision because I looked back at the rest of my life and I went, I worked really, really hard. I’m not afraid of hard work, but I need to know where I’m going. I don’t even know where I’m going. Number one, I don’t have clarity, but number two, I don’t even know where I’m going. And if, since I didn’t know I was going, I couldn’t possibly get there. And my mom always says, if you fill the plant, yeah, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. And my whole life I had had like little plans of like what I was going to do next, but there was no direction of that plan. There was no direction of where I was going. And I looked at all the different failures that I had accumulated. And one statement that my boss, Cheryl told me that I’ll never forget, she said, Josh, don’t run away from something, run towards something, make sure that you’re running towards it.

17:02 And so I had this vision in my head that I was going towards an, for me, I saw what was possible on Instagram and I thought that was going to be the thing. And I had this vision of getting famous on Instagram, having millions of followers and starting an entire Instagram network. And that changed and evolved over time. But that was what I went on to go do is build a multimillion follower network and partner up and have an agency and sell Instagram related services. And you know, I partnered up with a business partner and I’ve, I’ve told this story before, I know we went and ended up selling out to him after, you know, we started our course and I started trying different things in entrepreneurship and taking what I applied there. But I couldn’t have possibly done any of that unless I learned a skill and just never gave up.

(17:45) And there were so many times during the Instagram journey and during my journey of success where I was like, I want to quit, I want to give up. Is this worth it? But guess what? I looked back and I looked at 10 years of work and I went, you know what? What else am I going to do? I know that having a job isn’t for me. I tried that for seven months at Olive Garden. I know that having a job isn’t for me because I have a job right now and I don’t like it. This is my only option. This is all I know. And I didn’t let that stand in the way. And I stress that, uh, you know, last, uh, last episode about not letting those things stand in your way. And I just went out and I did it. And that ultimately got me to where I’m at today.

(18:24) And as I went through that journey and as I went through that entire process, I really identified some key things along the way that allowed me to get to where I’m at here. And I identified, you know, different key components of what holds people back, what held me back and how I overcame those things. And when I found these key components, how applying those things got me to the next step and got me to the next step and got me to here today. And you know, for those of you that might have not listened to my old story or maybe you have listened to this and before and you’ve heard this, I’m telling you this again because it’s important. If you already heard this story, I’m telling you it again because it’s so important and crucially true. All right? Like repetition is important on the important things.

(19:13) So don’t like just take this and be like, oh, I’ve heard this before. No, I’m saying this because it’s important. And for those of you that don’t know what I do now, I do a lot of consulting in the social media space and how businesses increase profits through social media, and advertising through social media, and reduced customer acquisition costs through social media. I had no idea how to do any of that. And I teach a lot of entrepreneurs how to do it as well. I had no idea how to even teach or how did you any of that. But how I got started was simply by buying a course and by going all in on that and following through and learning a skill, how I got started was literally by never quitting. How I got started was literally just choosing to say, this is what I’m going to do.

(19:56) Having a vision of what that looked like and figuring it out. And Sam Ovens, my mentor, he said this in one of the trainings that I was listening to have him, he said, you have to trust in your ability to figure things out. You’ve got to believe in yourself. And I, that’s what I did. I was a B and C student with one A, I think I got one in one or two A’s in school. Okay. Mostly a B and C student. I’m not overly talented. I just won’t ever quit. And that’s what got me here. And that’s what will get you there as well. And you know there’s a time for each different things in business and you’re going to hear a lot of people in the entrepreneurship space. If you’re getting into this or whatever journey of this is, I’m in the entrepreneurship space for you.

(20:38) Maybe you know, maybe you don’t want to be an entrepreneur. Maybe your goal is to be a ballet dancer, or maybe your goal is to be an actor or whatever that is. You’re going to hear a lot of people say that, you know, don’t work hard, work smart. You’re going to hear a lot of people say, you know, systemize, you know, you’re gonna hear a lot of people say that, you know, add multiple streams of income. Don’t listen to that right now. Hard work and figuring things out and learning is the only thing that you have going for you right now. Don’t try to scale yet. Don’t try to add multiple things yet. Just do one thing and figure it out because ultimately that’s going to get you to where you need to be and worry about that later. Once you have money, once you have cash flow, then worry about those things.

(21:13) You can hire people to help you that teach you those things. Focus on what you’re doing right now and just go all in on that. If you want to finish college, go all in on college. If you want to go be a doctor, go be a doctor or an actor or an entrepreneur or a race car driver or a football player or a sewer, whatever it is that you want to do, just go all in on that and never ever quit. All right, now, why do I tell you all this and what was I leading up to with this? And as I said, I said that during this time I have identified some key things. I identified some, you know, some pieces that allowed me to design my dream life. Now I don’t live my perfect dream life yet, but let me tell you something.

(21:54)  I live pretty darn close to it. I get to decide my own schedule. I work with who I want to work with when I want to work with them. I make enough money to live wherever I want in the world. I travel when I want to travel. I do what I love on a daily basis. Yeah, I want to scale my business. Yes, I want to get to seven, eight, nine figures and beyond. Yes, I want to have more of a bigger impact. I want to make reach a million downloads, but I have designed my life in every aspect in every area of it because I had a vision of what that was going to look like and I knew the steps saying, or I learned the steps that I needed to to get there and I, I figured out how to do that. And it’s something that I’m very passionate about to help people go out and design the life of their dreams.

(22:36)  And the reason I say the life of their dreams, and it sounds kind of cliche, but let me really explain this. Okay? A lot of people, they try to sell someone one specific thing or there’ll be like, you know, this is the way that you want to live, or this is the way that I live. You should live it too. And that’s, that’s not necessarily the case. Everybody’s different. And so I’m very passionate about helping people create and design the life that they want to live based on what they actually want. And so I have courses and training programs or whatnot that help certain types of people, like entrepreneurs, get bigger audiences and sell products and things of that nature. But maybe that’s not for you. Maybe it is. But overall, my goal is to help you with this podcast, design the life that you want to live and then help you actually go in and be able to achieve that through thinking different and through taking action.

(23:25) And so I’ve hinted at this for the last like, three episodes, that we’re going to be doing this really cool series and we’re gonna be testing it. I’ve not seen it done before on podcasts and maybe it’s out there. I don’t listen to a whole ton of podcasts, but certainly not on the ones that I listened to. But I want to do and kind of introduce a mini series, and don’t worry, I’m not selling you anything here. It’s not gonna cost you anything, it is just episodes. But over the next six episodes that we do, I have designed a series and so this series is called “Designing Your Dream Life”. All right? It’s basically the steps that I’ve identified that I took and then I’ve seen other people take to basically go out and create the life that they want to live.

(24:11) And it is similar to my MindShift Playbook, how to get anything that you want out of life. But really these six steps, or these six episodes that we’re going to be going over for the next six times, are talking about the process that you kind of have to go through to shape your dream life to shape those elements of it. And I’m very, very excited about this because I really truly believe it’s going to help a lot of people. And so I really want to encourage you that, you know, maybe this is your first episode that you listened to, or maybe you don’t listen to them all the time. I really want to encourage you to come into this. The next six episodes are going to be really awesome and they’re all going to build off on top of each other. So we’re going to have, you know, designing your dream life part one and talking about, uh, you know, why it’s possible and how it’s possible and all that.

(24:55) Um, and then, you know, all sorts of just really cool stuff. So six steps. I don’t want to ruin it for you, but if you’re excited about this and you plan on listening to all six of these, just hit me up on Instagram right now and I’ve got a little something that I want to tell you. Uh, and so if you messaged me on Instagram and just say, Hey, Josh, I’m really looking forward to the designing your dream life series. Then hit me up on Instagram and let me know. And I want to kind of shoot you a little message back. I’m going gonna send you a voice clip back and tell you a little something on there that I’m excited for about this. So, all right. That is why I tell you my backstory is to lead up to this, to show you that each one of these things led me to where I’m at today that allows me to go out and build not one, but two different six figures, multiple six-figure businesses. To sell to companies before the age of 25 to go out and do what I love and inspire people on a daily basis.

(25:47) I am living, breathing proof that an average person with an overwhelming desire to never quit and to succeed can make it all you need is hunger and desire to actually go make it. No, I didn’t have any special skill sets. I didn’t know anything about marketing or social media. I learned all those things. But if you have an overwhelming desire to never quit and to get to that level, you can do that. If you have an overwhelming desire to create your dream life in whatever area or aspect that is, it doesn’t have to be entrepreneurship. You can go out and do that and create that, but you have to understand how that’s done and I really want to help you, uh, create that and do that. And so that’s what this series is about. I told you my story so that you know that I’m living, breathing proof of this and that’s what it’s leading up to.

(26:31) So I’m very, very excited about that. All right. All right guys, just to recap what I said here before we sign off. I started at nine years old and now I’m 25 and yes, obviously there were gaps in there and no, I wasn’t a full fledged entrepreneur at nine or even 15, but I didn’t, didn’t quit. And I learned along the way and I learned that if you just don’t ever quit, you will be able to go and achieve things that many people are not able to because they do quit and not quitting. Does it mean not stopping something that’s not failing or that’s failing? It doesn’t mean you know that you have to stick with one thing for the rest of your life. It simply means never giving up on your dreams and never settling for anything less than you know that you’re capable of.

(27:20) And even the things that you don’t know you’re capable of because you are capable of so much more than what you realize. And so I’m very, very excited to unveil this, to kind of go into this on these next episodes. And I will tell you as you’re listening to this over the next two weeks, cause there’ll be two weeks of these episodes in March. I’m going to be studying a lot of quantum physics and I’m gonna be studying a lot more on mindset and business and, and changing your life and mind and, and uh, getting ready to share those with you. And I’m just very, very excited about it all. So much love to all of you. Thank you so much for listening. Please hit me up on Instagram. Let me know when you listen, your favorite times to listen.

(27:56) And if you’re excited about the mini-series cause we’re going to try this, maybe it’ll fail, maybe it won’t, but you’re going to be along for the ride. I want to get creative with the podcast. I really, really do. So thanks so much guys. As always, hustle, hustle, God bless. Do not be afraid to think different because those of us that think different would be the ones that change the world. I love you all and I will see you on the next podcast. Don’t forget we have t-shirts available now at and a shop in the right top right-hand corner. You can get t-shirts that reflect all of this. I love you all and I’ll see you on the next episode. Take it easy fam piece. Yo, what’s up guys? You’ve been listening to The Think Different Theory with myself, Josh Forti which I like to call a new paradigm of thinking and real quick I got a question for you.

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