WHAT IS THIS EPISODE ABOUT?
In today’s episode, I’m going to talk about my belief systems, what drives me, and what the thoughts that I struggle with every day about the current form of capitalism, and how it affects our society in general.
WHY SHOULD I LISTEN?
I’ll talk about my passion for making the world a better place through love, compassion and understanding. I believe that we can all use the tools and resources that we have in our personal, business and professional lives to make a positive impact in the world, even with the widespread disagreements that exist amongst us, and on this episode, I call upon all of us to make that difference.
Here are the key topics discussed in this episode:
- My belief systems and the factors that drive me (01:14)
- Is capitalism the best? (03:48)
- Questioning the state of affairs (07:38
- How to disagree with people in the best way possible (12:07)
- Making the world a better place (14:57)
- Business as a means to an end (18:06)
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March 29, 2019
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00:00 And I really thought about it. Is capitalism the best? Is that the answer? Is socialism really that bad? Is communism really that bad? Is capitalism really the best that we have to offer? And I struggle with it, and I went back and forth as I was thinking about these things, and you know, I came to an interesting conclusion with all of this.
00:34 You are now entering a new paradigm. So, here’s my issue. I wanted to find the answers to life’s biggest questions. Things like, how do I become happy and live with purpose? How do I make more money doing what I love, and what does it mean to be truly successful in all areas of life? My name is Josh Forti @JoshForti on Instagram and I ask life’s biggest questions and share the answers with you. My goal is to help you find purpose, happiness, and open your mind to new realms of possibility by helping you think differently about everything you do, know, and understand. On this podcast, we think different, we dream bigger, and we live in a world without limits. This is a new paradigm. Welcome to The Think Different Theory.
01:14 What’s up guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Think Different Theory. My name is Josh Forti, and we are on episode number 44. Welcome back to the program. In this episode, I want to just…, I want to open up about my belief systems a little bit. I feel as though I have a lot that goes on in my mind, that I don’t really share with you guys enough. And these are the types of things that I talk about with my girlfriend, and my mom, and my dad, and my friends, my close friends, the people that really get it. And, these are the issues that ultimately drive me. It’s not money, it’s not business. Those things do drive me. Those things, you know, are driving factors and important parts of my life, but really like, what goes on in my head on a daily basis.
02:01 When I sit down and read books about…, what drives me forward to want to build massive wealth and things like that, is not so much the concept of business, but it’s the concept of humanity. I don’t even know what the right word is, but like, loving more and making the world a better place, and leaving a positive impact, and justice, and helping people see the other side, and understanding there are differences in people, and that we don’t all want the same things, and that there is absolute truth in the world, but there is not as much absolute truth as people realize, like so many things are relative, and so many things are based on perspective and people’s life experiences. And, I want to just talk to you about that. I want to show you kind of how my mind works so that you know what drives me so that you know what I’m passionate about, so that you can kind of be like, “Okay, Josh. I get where you’re coming from.”
02:51 And, you know, a lot of this has been resurfaced recently, because of the death of my brother Kyle. Now, in the last episode, I talked about how beliefs are changed, and how beliefs are shifted. And we talked about how a change in perspective combined with an emotion that is stronger than the current emotion associated with your belief, overrides your belief and ultimately can change your beliefs. And so, I’ve had a lot of beliefs change since Kyle died. Let me tell you. I experienced…, I would venture to say, the greatest emotions that I’ve ever experienced. Yeah. For sure. That I’ve ever experienced in my human life with the death of my brother, which changed a lot of my perspective for good, and some of it, you know, brought about a lot of questions, but one of the things that it did was, it encouraged me to talk about my beliefs more with you, and kind of the things that I dive in on and think about on a daily basis.
03:48 And, one of the things that I want to touch on in this episode specifically, is the topic of capitalism, and the topic of really like keeping ultimate powers in check. And you know what I mean by that. Okay? My whole life, I have grown up, ever since I was a kid, I’ve been a capitalist, like, my parents are pro-capitalism. Everyone around me is pro-capitalism, capitalism, capitalism. America’s the best. America is a capitalist country. And, you know, capitalism certainly beats the alternative of socialism or communism, but as I started to think about this more, and more, and more, I started to kind of recognize that as I’ve grown, no matter what, no matter the system, no matter the person, no matter what it is that you’re trying to do, there are always flaws with everything. And, my brother Kyle was one of the people that really got me to start to think about the problems with capitalism.
04:52 And, got me to think about, why someone would want something like socialism. And got me to think about why someone would want something like communism, and why redistribution of wealth is attractive, and what the problems with capitalism were. Now, let me be very clear. My brother was a capitalist and let me be very clear, I am a capitalist. I love capitalism. And it is by far the best economic system in the world. I mean, truly, truly, but what I recognized and as I’ve started to think about this is, what are the problems and how can we make this system better? Because capitalism without morality, and capitalism without limits, capitalism without some level of consciousness with it, is a loose cannon that has its own dire evils just like anybody else, or just like anything else like communism, or socialism, or whatnot.
05:45 And why I believe in the ability to go, and to take responsibility for one’s life, and to go create, and to go build, and I’m inspired by people like Bill Gates, and Jeff Bezos, and Elon Musk, and all the greats that have heavily taken advantage of capitalism. You also have to think about the downsides of that, and how greed can really get in the way of people, and how greed can really drive a society negatively. And I look around in America, I look around at the utter disgust in the marketing world. What I do for a living is marketing. So, clicks and headlines, and getting you to buy is what I do for a living. And I really, really, struggle with it, because I look around and I go, We live in a consumer-based society. It’s more, more, more, more, more, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. Don’t have the money, get a credit card. Can’t pay your credit card, blame somebody else, and don’t pay it.
06:40 Debt, more, more, front row, best seats, this, new car, new house, everything, it’s gotta be the best. There’s gotta be more, there’s gotta be better. There’s gotta be this…, and that is unfiltered unharnessed capitalism, and quite frankly, it’s kind of greed at the highest extent, and the highest level. Now I’m not saying that the people that control the biggest companies in the world are necessarily evil. I don’t know their hearts, I’ve never met them. Never met Mark Zuckerberg or the CEO of Nike, or you know, whoever, but it begs the question of when is enough enough? It begs the question of, when does capitalism become a bad thing? When does unfiltered buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy more, more, more, more, more, just because you can, become okay, and not okay? Where is that line? And I struggle with it, and I’m not going to magically give you the answer on this podcast.
07:38 I’m simply telling you the questions that are going through my head, because I sit over there and I go, “Well, just because I can make $1 billion, does that mean I need…, do I need to?” Just because you can make someone buy something, should you? Just because capitalism works at the highest level, does it mean that we always have to push it to its max extremes?” Like, all these questions rolling around in my head. And then, I look at this concept of redistribution of wealth, and my brother was really big on like, understanding the other side. And, I try my very hardest to see the sides of people that are like, “Donald Trump is evil”, or you know, “Capitalism and rich people suck, because all they do is take more, and more, and more, and more, and more.” And I’m like, “Well, just because they have the more knowledge”, and I’m like, “It doesn’t make them bad people, but there are definitely evil people that have lots of money, but there’s also evil people that have no money.” Money doesn’t really…, it doesn’t really determine whether you’re evil or not. You’re like, “It can corrupt”, but I’m just…, I just don’t know. And so, I started thinking about like, okay, I understand now why some people are like, “Well, it’s the government’s job to take care of us, or tax the rich more. Take their money, they don’t need anymore.” And while I don’t agree with it, and this is what I, I plead with people to, to, to do and I plead with people to just open up their mind to, just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean you can’t think about it. Doesn’t mean you can’t try to see the other side and doesn’t mean that their feelings, the person who you disagree with, his feelings are wrong.
09:10 It doesn’t mean that they are a bad person. It doesn’t mean that they’re evil or that they have bad intention. Because I’ve met a lot of people that I disagree with, that I think they have good intentions, they’re just going about it in a way that I disagree with. And I don’t have all the answers either. I could be wrong. And so like growing up, the society slash/culture that I lived in, was basically, we voted Republican, Democrats are bad, capitalism is the way, you know, personal responsibility, the government sucks, you know, if you’re a liberal you’re…, you know, negative things to that. And so, I grew up in this very, very, right-wing conservative environment. And so my whole life I thought that way. And then, as I grew older, I started questioning it, and I was like, “Well, just because you don’t believe the same political views as I do, that doesn’t mean you’re bad.”
10:09 And then I started being, because I would always make fun of like people, that would want to give away food stamps. Right? I’d be like, “Guys, are you kidding me? Food stamps are the stupidest thing in the world.” But then I would like, as I grew up, I started thinking about it. I was like, “Well, okay. Why would someone that’s not on food stamps, that’s not a political figure, want or support food stamps”, because I started thinking about this, because the argument was like, “Oh, the government, you know, those Democrats just want to give away food stamps so that they can have more power.” Right? And I’m like, “Well, okay. Well, what about the people that are not in political office, and are not on food stamps, and are not benefiting from food stamps in any way, why would they support them?”
10:54 And I started realizing that, it’s because they…, like, that’s their understanding and their way of fixing a greater problem. Right? And so, I look at this and I go, “Okay, so if someone is hungry and someone is living off of food stamps, my solution to that is, “Hey, get a job. Hey, provide value. Hey, go out there and take personal responsibility for your action.” And, I believe that is the best way to go about doing it. To this day, I still believe that. I am not a fan of food stamps. I mean, I think that in rare cases they serve their place, but you know, like I look at that and I go…., to me that just breeds laziness, but when I started to see the other side, and when I started to have this perspective that’s like, “Huh, okay. There are people out there. Their solution to keeping someone not starving to death, their solution to keeping people off the streets, their solution to helping people out is by giving them stuff for free.”
12:07 And they genuinely believe in their heart that that’s the best way to go about doing it. And so, they’re like, “Well, I don’t have the power myself to want to go and set up big charities, and to go and like distribute this food myself, and to go and do that. So I support the government taking a little bit more of my money for the greater good.” The problem is, is that obviously as we know, the government is corrupt, and blah, blah, blah, and all that jazz, but that doesn’t mean that the people that support it intentions are bad. Some of them may be, some of them, Republicans and Democrats alike, get corrupted. People in power get corrupted for power. Like, that’s universal. That’s not a party thing. But there are people that support things because they genuinely believe that’s best. And so one of the biggest questions on my mind all the time, is how do you disagree with people, and still love them, and still show them that you love them, even if it’s on something that they’re very, very passionate about?
13:09 How does a society go and do that? And how do I lead by example? Because, the fact of the matter is, in America alone, there’s what, 300 million people, there are 7 billion people on earth. People are going to disagree. People are going to have strong, strong opinions. Some people are going to think that money’s bad. Some people are gonna think it’s good. Some people are gonna think abortion is right or wrong. Some people are going to think gay marriage is right or wrong. Some people are gonna think higher taxes, lower taxes, food stamps, you know, you name it. Sports cars are bad. Junky cars are bad. Big houses, apartments. We all disagree on so many different things. So how do you go?, and how do you lead by an example? And how do I lead by example”, and how do I create or help create a society or a culture that is morally balanced, that puts the good, or the interest of other people before their own, while still having a successful business, while still chasing their dreams and passion, while still caring, while still donating time?
14:13 How do I find the balance of charity work and business work? How do I find the balance of loving each other? How do I go and figure all that out, lead by example, and then ultimately change a society? And I know I can’t change the whole world. I’m not naive. I don’t believe that I personally can change 7 billion people’s lives through one thing or another. Right? Only God can do that. God could use me to do that, but me personally, I need to lead by example in the area that I am. And here’s the thing. If I lead by example, it affects you, and I start to spark these questions in you, and then you go and apply, and then you lead by example and go and change somebody else’s life. And then somebody else does it, and does that…, Eventually, maybe, we can better people’s lives and leave the world a little bit better than we found it.
14:57 And so for me, I sit over here and I ask myself all these questions, I’m like, “Is capitalism the answer?” Well, yes, I think it’s the best system, granted, given that my options other than that are communism and socialism, why the heck would anybody want those? But then I look at those and I go, “Okay, well. I understand why people would want those.” So how do we take the good parts of that?, the caring parts of socialism, which…, maybe a few, and the one good part of communism, which I don’t even know if there are any, but like, you know what I mean, like how do we take the things that people are trying to do good through those systems with, and implement them into a capitalistic society, and have balance? I don’t know the answers, I don’t have the answers, but I know that if I continued to strive, and continue to search, and continue to love and show love, that I’m going to do my part in society, and I’m going to do my part to make the world a better place.
15:53 I’m going to continue to learn, and I’m going to continue to get more information so that I can help more people. I love business. I love it. I love it so much. Making money, providing value, changing people’s lives through it. It’s just great, but like there’s more to life than that, and I know that, and not everybody’s cut out for business. Not Everybody’s cut out to build a million dollar company, or a ten million dollar company, or a hundred million dollar company, or a billion dollar company. Not everybody is called to do that. Not everybody has the desire to do that. Some people want to be school teachers, some people want to be missionaries, some people want to be race car drivers or whatever. Right? That’s fine. So how do you go and take a whole entire society that is so vastly different from each other, and creates unity and love? If we all loved a little bit more, the world would be better.
16:41 And I’m just trying to figure out how to do that. And so, that’s one of the questions that I ask. I’m like, “How do I have conscious capitalism? How do I save capitalism?” That’s my mission, right? Like, is to make the world better. And I believe that capitalism is the best system that we have out there now, but maybe there’s a better one. Maybe I’ll design a better one, who knows. Taking the limits off and just brainstorming and dumping. But I explore these things and I allow my mind to go to these places, and I read these books because this is what I care about. This is what I’m passionate about. And these are the questions that roll around in my mind, “How do you save the world? How do you make it better?” And I don’t mean like, save the world, like, oh, save it from monsters, save it from this. How do I save it from hate?
17:21 How do I show Christ’s love? How do I make the world better in my own little way? And, I can do it my way, and you can do it your way, and they’re not going to look the same, but if we all focus on that collectively, we’re collectively going to make the world better. And so these are the types of things that I think about all the time. And then I think about, you know, how do we save kids from sex slavery, and how do we just rid ourselves of that like, “Oh, why is there sex trafficking? Like, why is that a thing? Why is it a thing that happens?” That makes me so mad. And just…, Justice, justice, justice. We need justice. And I’m out to fix it. I don’t know how. I have no idea how I’m gonna fix it. I don’t know guys.
18:06 If you’ve got ideas or books I should read, hit me up on Instagram. I’d love to hear your recommendations, but I want to get people passionate about this. I want people to care about something more than money, and about themselves, more than about themselves, more than about sex, or just sleeping with random people, or building an empire that’s all based on money. I want people to care. I want people to genuinely use business as a means to an end. Business is a means to my end. I don’t even know what that end looks like quite yet, but I know that business is not the end goal. Money is not the end goal. Making the world a better place is. So, if you’re a Democrat, I love you. If you’re a Republican, I love you.
18:46 If you hate both parties, I love you. If you love both parties, I love you. If you’re gay, you’re straight, you’re black, you’re white, or whatever. I love everyone. And I think we all need to. One of the things that were said about my brother at his memorial service, that I just absolutely love. And I think that we all… There’s not a single person in the world, that I’ve ever met that did this better than my brother. And, there’s not a single person in the world that couldn’t improve in this area, including my brother. My brother Kyle disagreed with people well. I want to disagree with people better, because if you can disagree with someone, and still show love. If you can disagree with someone, and still show that you care. If you can disagree with someone and still respect them, then this world, we can make a lot of things happen and the world would be much better off.
19:40 And, I will say like there were Democrats and Republicans both that loved my brother. My brother was primarily a conservative, primarily Republican, but there was a bill that’s being passed in his name. My brother’s name is on a political bill that’s being passed right now to help foster kids. And guess what? It was introduced by a Democrat that disagreed with him on many issues. Why? Because he disagreed well, and because they were able to still respect each other, and love each other. And I’m like, “How do I do that? How do I become more like that? How do I spread the love? How do I spread compassion? How do I fix capitalism?” I just got so many questions, and I just want to fix at all. So anyway, I just felt like sharing that, getting that out there, and just really pouring my heart into this.
20:26 And I…, I don’t know, please hit me up on Instagram and let me know whether you liked this episode. If you want more of this, or less of this, or whatever that is. I really try to customize this content around, as I tell my story of life. I have a lot that goes on in my life. I can’t possibly share it all. So I want to share the parts that are most important to you, but this is something that’s really important to me and I really hope that you can resonate with it, and relate to it. So, yeah.
20:49 Alright guys, that’s all I’ve got for you today. As always, hustle, hustle. God bless. Do not be afraid to think different, because those of us who think different will change the world. And, thinking different is what’s going to bring love, what’s going to change capitalism, what’s going to change people’s minds, what’s going to make the world a better place. Thinking different is going to do that, so please, please remember to do that. Alright, do something kind today. Do something loving today, pay for someone’s meal, fill up their gas tank. If you can’t afford to do that, smile at them. Do something that’s going to make the world better today. I love you all and I will see you on the next episode. Take it easy fam Peace.
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