Think Different Theory

Does Good and Bad Even Exist?


In this episode, I’m going to talk about absolute truth and moral law, making decisions, God, the Bible, and other things that most people will probably disagree with me on. We’re are always told that we should be good people and do the right thing at all times, but the same people who tell us that, are people who don’t believe in an absolute truth system or even in God.


It all just gets really confusing, but I’m going to give you a whole new view of things by showing you a little bit of a reason why I believe that the Bible is 100% true, and that God exists, and that He wants a personal relationship with us.

Here are the key topics discussed in this episode:

  • Having no concept of right or wrong other than what we feel (04:44)
  • Determining what is right or wrong (06:16)
  • Our actions affect others (09:50)
  • Decisions have to be based off of something (12:46)
  • There is no good or bad unless they are defined by someone or something (16:27)
  • The world is messed up (18:39)
  • Choosing a lifestyle of extreme ownership of yourself (20:09)


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May 15, 2019


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00:00          How do you make decisions? Like I… I want you to really think about this. How do you determine what is right and wrong? Is it just whatever you feel? Is it a situation by situation thing, like what is your moral compass to determine whether or not something is okay, or not, and is there an absolute truth behind that? We’re to discuss that on this episode, but I want you to think about it for yourself.

00:31          You are now entering a new paradigm.

00:34          So, here’s my issue. I wanted to find the answers to life’s biggest questions. Things like, how do I become happy and live with purpose? How do I make more money doing what I love, and what does it mean to be truly successful in all areas of life? My name is Josh Forti, @JoshForti on Instagram, and I ask life’s biggest questions and share the answers with you. My goal is to help you find purpose, happiness, and open your mind to new realms of possibility by helping you think differently about everything you do, know, and understand. On this podcast, we think different, we dream bigger, and we live in a world without limits. This is a new paradigm. Welcome to The Think Different Theory.

01:15          What’s up guys? Welcome back to another episode of The Think Different Theory. My name is Josh Forti and we are on episode number 64. Like I said in the last episode, and by the way, if you did not listen to the last episode, you missed out on a treat. Boy, I felt like I lost on that episode. And just FYI, I’m recording this episode right after that episode, so you know what kind of mood I am in right now as I’m recording these. It’s… it’s a mood that basically says, “The world is a mystery and everybody doesn’t get it, and I’m going to go find it.” It’s not me against the world. It’s more like, me against the mysterious secrets of the world, and I’m not listening to what anybody else says, because everybody else says, because every else seems to be asleep, and doesn’t really care about truth.

02:00          But anyway, basically I have a lot of questions in life. I have a lot of questions in the world, and… I’m going to go find the answers to them all. And, I gave you basically a sneak peek inside of the brain of myself, and… you basically get to know how my mind works at all times, or maybe not how it works, but when I think about it at all times. The questions that I ask, and that I struggle with, and that I just kind of bounce back and forth. But anyway, that is neither here nor there. Let’s focus on this episode here today, because building off of last episode, and like I said, if you have not listened to the last episode, I want to just encourage you right now, pause this episode, take a breath, and go back and listen to the first episode, like the one before this.

02:38          What was that? Episode 63? Go back and listen to episode 63 first, and then come back to this one, because a lot of this will make a whole lot more sense. But in this episode, I want to talk about absolute truth, and I want to talk about making decisions, and I want to talk about God, and I want to talk about the Bible, and I want to talk about some things that many may disagree with me on, and that’s okay, because I believe this and I’m still trying to figure this whole thing out. And if you have an opposing view, I respect that opposing view. And I’d love to debate you on it sometime, because I like challenging my own beliefs and whatnot. But, I want to talk about the concept of absolute truth and moral law, because this is something that comes up a lot.

03:15          You know, Josh. Good. You know, just use… you just have to be good. You have to be a good person. Do the right thing. Do this forever. But a lot of these people that say, “Good, do the good thing, or make the right decision”, or you know, when they go to make a decision, they don’t believe in God. They don’t believe in the bible and they don’t believe in… in an absolute truth system. And so I want to back up and I’m going to kind of preface this by saying, I don’t know what all is absolute truth. I don’t have a list of absolute truths laid out that I have determined yet. I don’t know if I will ever, but a couple of things that I do absolutely believe in 100% and…, and we’re going to get into this more, but I absolutely 100% believe that the bible is 100% true, and I believe that God 100% exists and that he wants a personal relationship with us.

04:01          And, my goal by the time that I’m done with this episode is to show you a little bit of a reason why I believe that, but more importantly, why it is important that you figure out where your truth comes from and where, what you define as true and right and wrong, because it’s absolutely crucially and utterly important for the very fabric of our society and just us as humans to be able to function and get along with each other. All right, so roll. I don’t wanna say real quick because there’s no clip draw. It’s just me talking. But let’s dive into this. So back up, Eh, maybe two weeks ago maybe now I was having a conversation with, um, my friend, his name is boosted and some of you may know him Gustin shout out to you. I’m not sure if you’re listening or not, but if you are, you’re good man.

04:44          All right. So we’re sitting there, we’re chit-chatting back and forth. We’re on Facebook messenger or whatever. And uh, I’ve had many, many conversations like this one. This just happens to be the most recent conversation and I think that it’s relevant to the story. So we’re talking about it and, uh, the, it comes up and he goes, isn’t it crazy? To me? There isn’t a crazy to you how there are people that wake up every morning and don’t believe God exists and don’t believe the Bible is truth and have no way to base how they’re going to make their decisions off of. They have no concept of what is right and wrong other than, than what they feel now. I, like I said, I’ve had this conversation many times. And by the way, goose, you know, my friend Gustino night, he and I disagree on certain things, but we’re both Christian people.

05:31          And, uh, I base all my decisions off of what I believe to be true. The Bible and all my decisions off of the Bible. I believe it’s from God. So I believe that God gives us absolute truth. I believe God defines what is good and what is bad and that, uh, you know, God has given us a moral law. So this begs the question of is there absolute truth? And this begs the question of what is right and what is wrong? So for those people that are not religious, for those that you know, um, maybe don’t believe in God or, or maybe question God or maybe have other, some other form of, of truth to them, I have a question for you. So if you were to come to me and say, Josh, don’t do that, that is wrong. Or you know, there’s a law that comes and you’re like, that’s just a bad Lara.

06:16          It’s a good law that basically is determining what we abide by as good or bad. We have to make a decision on whether or not something is good or bad, right? We must first ask ourselves the question of how do we determine what is right or wrong? Right? So I think we can all agree that in order for something to be right or wrong, in order for there to be like, that’s more realistic, right? In order for there, to me, moral law, in order for something to be right around, there has to be a lot in order for us to be like, oh, that is a good thing. Oh, you are helping that person, that is a good thing. You are shooting that person and trying to kill them, that is a bad thing, right? Rape is a bad thing, right? Things that we all universally say are bad things we must look at and go, okay, in order for that to be a good or a bad thing, there must be a moral law, right?

07:04          There must be a code that says this is right and this is wrong. Yes. Okay, great. So then my next question is, well, in order for something to exist, so in order for there to be a moral law, right, there must be a creator of that. There must be a moral lawgiver, right? So, and when you think about this, in order for right now, I’m looking at my phone, right? It would be ludicrous to think that this phone just boom is just there and that there’s not a creator of this actual phone, right? There’s obviously somebody created this phone and you might look at something like, I don’t know, book a, I’m just going to use this. This book right next to me right here is called the logic of God, right? The logic of God is written by a guy named Ravi Zacharias.

07:47          So in order for this book to exist, it had to be written by somebody. That person was Ravi Zacharias and order for this book, clockwork to exist that I’m looking at right now. It was written by somebody whose name is Mike. I don’t even know how to pronounce the last name. Mike goal. Oh, wince. I Dunno. He wrote it. Right? So in order for there to be more law, there must be a moral lawgiver. So in order for there to be a right and a wrong, there must be someone that gave us what is right and what is wrong. It can’t just come from within us. Because what I hear a lot of people say is, well Josh, that’s right, that’s wrong. And I’m like, well how do you determine what is right and what is wrong? And they’re like, well I feel what it is inside of me, right?

08:20          Whatever. I think you know, if I think that that is right, then it’s right. If I think that that is wrong, that is wrong. And whatever society as a whole generally accepts as right or wrong is then right or wrong. And so then I must ask you, great. So if you think that something is right and I think that something is wrong or vice versa, who wins? Perfect example. What if you do not think it is okay to kill someone? Right? I think that we most people would agree is a bad idea to kill someone. But what if I don’t? What if I’m like, no, he pissed me off. Bang dead mom, solve that problem, right? What have I thought that was totally fine? Or what have I was a sick, twisted pervert that thought that, you know, rape was totally fine and went out there, just decide, oh man, I’m gonna write this person, this is like, but if I have no problem with that, if that was good to me, if that was not a bad thing to me, who are you to say that that is a bad thing?

09:10          Who are you to say it’s true for me? Right? So then one could argue and say, okay, well, uh, you know, truth is relative to each person as long as it does not negatively affect another human being. Right? So then I asked you, okay, but what is negatively affect a human being? Right? Like what w who defines what negative? Once again, what good or bad is? So then one could make the argument and say, well, you know, truth is relative to you, as long as it doesn’t, you don’t come in contact or affect anybody else. And I’m like, sweet, cool. So is you know, self-harm. That’s not a bad thing is you know, like cutting myself or committing suicide that that’s not a bad thing. That’s fine. So beating up an animal and destroying, you know, something like, what do you mean? Like that’s totally fine.

09:50          Well guess what? Once again, then I would come back and argue and say even if that was right or wrong, no man is an island on my actions affect everyone. My actions affect you indirectly, right? If I litter, that doesn’t just affect me, that affects the earth and everyone that lives on it. If I do negative things towards the arts, that’s going to affect how a ripple effect on more and more people. So my point in saying all this is in order for there to be right and wrong, there has to be an absolute right and wrong moral law. And in order for that moral law to exist, there must be a moral lawgiver. There must be someone that determined what that law consisted of. Now I believe that that is God. I believe that God is perfect and that he exists and that he created the Bible and the Bible back when it was originally written.

10:35          You know, obviously it’s been translated many, many times, but back when it was originally written that it was perfect and complete, we don’t blame us without flaw. And that is how I base my decisions every single day on what is right or what is wrong. I go out there and I say, Oh, you know, I’m doing this. Is this out? What you know, based on the Bible is based on God. Like this is what I’m saying is right. And what I’m saying is wrong. And most people go and say, well no, I’ve got my own version of truth. I’ve got my own version of what is right and what is wrong. I got my own version of the moral law. And most people, an overwhelming majority of them have no idea what they base their decisions off of. If I were to ask them, and I’ve asked a lot of people this, most of the people that I come in contact with say, Josh, I just do whatever I, I feel is right.

11:19          I just do it. Like I look at the situation, I take it out on a situation by situation thing and I do what I feel is right. And I believe that somewhere inside of us we all can go and you know, find what is good and what is bad. But let me tell you, there’s evil people out there. There is bad, there are definitely bad people out there. There are definitely people out there that have negative things that they do and they liked doing them and they hurt other people. So you, and if they think that is good, if they think that blowing someone up in the name of a law is a good thing. And I’m not trying to target, you know, Muslims, I’m talking extremists here. Okay. I’m saying anyone that thinks it’s okay to blow up other people in the name of some God or the name of some something like if they think that that’s right or where are we supposed to say?

12:00          Yup, it’s right for them. So it’s cool. Is that what we’re saying? And so I’m saying that it is absolutely so crucially important to know why you believe what you believe, but more importantly, like it’s so important to like know what you base your truth off of and what you base your fundamentals off of. And so I want to challenge you. I want to ask you here today, what is it that you base your decisions off of? How do you make decisions? Like how do you determine what is right and what is wrong? Because most people don’t know. Most people don’t know. It’s based off of what their parents said or what they experience or what they know to be here, what they know to be there, but they never just sit down and ask ourselves the question, what is right, what is wrong? And how do I make those decisions?

12:46          Now I am not saying in any way, shape or form that all truth is relative. Absolutely not. You know like there might be something that is right for you and not right for me. There might be something that is true in one scenario that is not true in another situation. And I’m not saying that God has outlined every single possible scenario on whether I should buy a white car or a black car or whether or not I should go pick up my sister from dance or not or whether or not I should date one person or another. Right? Like there might not be a very clear line and how we handle situations or whether or not we give someone grace or not, like all these different things. Like some of them may be relative but relative truth or like relative to the scenario, but they all have to be based off of something.

13:31          How do you make the decision on whether or not to deal with someone this way or that way? It’s got to be grounded somewhere and most people that I talked to cannot answer that. And so what I hear a lot of people say is, you know the universe, Oh man, well it comes from the universe, comes from a higher power that instills it within us. And I’m like, okay, well I believe that that higher power is God and that he’s given us a set of absolute truth. I believe that he’s given us the Bible and that’s a pretty good guideline on a way to live. And I believe that he’s told us how to react in certain scenarios. And I believe that if universally, no matter who you are in the entire world, if you follow what the Bible says, it gives you freedom, it gives you life more abundantly.

14:13          It gives you the ability to actually go out there and live a life full of your passion while still treating people the right way. Yes, there is a set of rules and guidelines that you should follow that our advice and that is, you know, truth and that says, Hey, if you do this, this is going to happen. If you don’t do this, it’s not going to happen. And those are things to follow by. And I believe that the Bible is absolute truth and I have yet to find someone that can come to me and say something else. He’s absolute, nobody has been able to present me. And I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, I’m saying this is what I believe based on what I know right now. No one has been able to come to me and present to something that makes more logical sense or more sense at all.

14:50          In any scenario then the Bible being true like no other book, nothing else can be scientific people, people, people saying that the Bible, uh, has, uh, has never been proven. Like how do you know that, that, that, and that’s a whole conversation for another topic. But because the purpose of this podcast is not to prove whether or not the Bible is right or wrong. The purpose of this podcast episode here is to talk about absolute truth and just talking about that there has to be absolute truth. There’s got to be a moral law, and in order for there to be a moral law, there has to be a moral lawgiver. So who is that moral lawgiver? If you don’t believe in God, if you don’t believe God exists, how do you determine that? If you live in modern day society today, how do you determine what is right and wrong?

15:43          I don’t, I’m not in this specific question right here. I’m not asking how would you determine what is fact or not? I’m talking about actual mortality, right and wrong is killing someone right or wrong, as right or wrong. Think about it. And you can say, well, of course it’s wrong. Why? According to WHO, according to you, according to how you feel. Great, cool. What? What if somebody disagrees with you? And you can say, well that they’re a psychopath. Well, okay, great. But it says who right? Like what determines what truth is, you know? And so there’s something I’m thinking about a lot. And so when I started thinking about this back, this was about a year and a half ago now, when I really started sitting down and thinking about this, I was like, Huh, I’ve got to figure out what truth is. I’ve got to figure out how I make decisions.

16:27          And I studied and I went and searched. I’m still searching, but everything that I’ve come back to leads me to believe the Bible and I’ve read other, believe me I did with did not blindly go in and be like, yeah, I got to exist. Yay. Yeah, the Bible’s true. Yay. Like I questioned it. I questioned it hard. I wanted God not to be a real thing. I want, I didn’t believe it could. I didn’t believe that such love could exist. I did not believe that the Bible that was written so long ago by a bunch of old dudes could be like real. Like I was like, seriously? Come on now. But everything single thing that the more I’ve studied it, the more I’ve read leads me to believe that this is the case. But more importantly, I know without a shadow of a doubt that there’s got to be a moral law because without a moral law there is chaos and without good there is no such thing as good unless someone defines what good is.

17:14          So who defined that there is no such thing as bad unless someone defined what bad is. So who defined that? And you can say, well, Josh, there’s no such thing as good and bad. It’s all relative. Okay? So it’s totally okay for me to go and beat the crap out of you because cool with me. Right? You know? So something that I’ve, I’ve thought about a lot, something that I want to encourage you to think about is how do you make decisions on a daily basis? How do you make decisions on what is right or wrong? How do you determine how to make any decision ever? It’s deep stuff, but you got to think about it. This is the first step to wake up. It’s the first step to becoming free. Is it becoming a free thinker to actually like understanding somewhat of this crazy life we live in?

17:58          You know, most people are asleep. Most people don’t want to ask these questions. Most people don’t ever get into this stuff because it’s hard. It’s uncomfortable. It’s not the easy views on youtube or Instagram. It’s not entertaining. It’s hard to think about. You have to challenge yourself. You have to challenge what you believe. You got to get really deep into like deep stuff. But you know what, it’s what you got to do in order to get ahead. And on top of that you’re going to start noticing and you’re gonna start realizing when you start asking yourself these questions, like, I’m preparing you, I’m giving you a full warning. If you keep listening to this podcast, I’m going to like teach you about things. I’m going to show you things that like you’ve never thought about before. And it’s going to wake you up to a whole new world.

18:39          You’re not going to able to unseat them are unhirable. So if you, you know, just too much for you, just turn it off. But like, I’m serious, you’re going to start looking around and you’re gonna be like, everybody’s wrong. Holy Cow. What? The whole world’s all sorts of messed up. Like how, how, what, why are people acting the way that they’re acting? Why is this okay? Why are people doing this? Why are we studying this? And you’re just are waking up and realizing that everyone around you doesn’t ever talk about this stuff, doesn’t ever ask these questions. And that’s why our world is so jacked up and I’m a very optimistic person. Optimistic Person. Like I like seeing the good side of things. I like seeing the positive side of things and I believe that there’s a lot of good left in the world. However, I also believe most of the world is numb.

19:24          Most of the world is lost. Most of the world has no idea about any of these things cause they’ve never stopped to ask themselves a question. And you’ve got to like, that’s what it’s all about. And if you don’t, you’re going to stay lost. You’re going to stay blind, you’re going to stay not in the reality of truth. You’re going to live in a fantasy world that is wrong and ended up being, I think ultimately really, really depressed or sad or, or discouraged by mankind itself because we’re all sorts of messed up. So understand that when you ask these questions to yourself, when you hear me talk about them, I know it sounds crazy. I know that most people don’t talk about these things. I know that most people are like, Josh, you’re nuts. They’re insane. But, and when you look around, most people are going to look at you and go, you listen to that stuff.

20:09          You believe that stuff that you’re going to get that from people. But you’ve got to ask yourself the question of how do I make decisions? What actually determines truth? Who is our moral lawgiver? Is there a more law? And if there is, then like who gives it? And if there’s not, what does that even mean? What does all of this mean? What do any of what does any of my actions mean or do what is right wrong? Like you’ve got to ask yourself these questions because if you’re don’t, you’re just going to be a blind follower. What do they call them? Sheep. Robots. Like she’s going to live in the system and do whatever the system tells you to do. So yeah, it’s crazy. Yep. It’s wildly and massively thinking different, but that’s the lifestyle that I’ve chosen. That’s the lifestyle I want to encourage you to choose of ownership, extreme ownership of yourself, of your thoughts, being awake, being educated, being informed, knowing why you believe what you believe.

20:57          And then taking that information and putting it back into whatever you do. For me, it’s business for you. Maybe it’s something else. Your job, your career, whatever the people, the relationships, go talk to them about it. Go challenge the status quo. Go out there and really go out and change the world even if that’s even just the little world that you’re in. Believe me, when you start thinking like this, when you start asking these questions and when you start coming up with these answers, I’ll tell ya, the, your entire world will change. People view you differently, but you’re going to be able to change not only your world, but the lives of those that you come in contact with. All right? All right. I know that was a little bit of a rhetorical question or repetitive episode, but it’s very important. I’m very passionate about this.

21:36          Really trying to figure out what absolute truth is. Really trying to figure out what good and… right and wrong is. What good and bad is. How to make these decisions. Who determines those? Waking people up to this reality? That’s why I did this episode, because it’s important, and I believe in that. Alright guys, as always, hustle, hustle, God bless. Do not be afraid to think different, because those of us who think different are going to be the ones that ask the right questions, the ones that get ahead in life, the ones that really make a difference and an impact, and the ones that see the world for what it is. Real true reality, not the reality that we’re… you know, think that we’re living in now. I love you all and I will see you on the next episode. Hit me up on Instagram. If you liked the episode, I want to hear your feedback. Take it easy fam. Peace.

22:19          Yo, what’s up guys? You’ve been listening to The Think Different Theory with myself, Josh Forti, which I like to call, “A new paradigm of thinking”, and real quick, I got a question for you. Did you like this episode? If you did, I want to ask a huge favor. See, the biggest thing that helps this podcast grow, and that will spread this message of positivity and making the world a better place, is if you leave a review, a rating and subscribe to the podcast. What that does is, it basically tells the platforms that this is out on, that you like my stuff, and that I’m doing something right. So if you could take like three seconds out of your day and subscribe, leave a rating, and a review, I would be forever grateful for you. Also, I want to hear from you. I want to know your feedback, your ideas, and your questions for future episodes. So be sure to hit me up on Instagram in the DM @JoshForti or via email